Re: something new ........
What elseZen Mod said:seems that this thread will be another perfectly organized one ....
mithomas said:
Sweet. Thanks This is what I am talking about. Bigger IS better - although I almost always listen through lowthers as a mid-range.
I have some bonded 12 X 12" X 4" fin heatsinks that I can see what they will disappate. Getting the IRON may be the expensive and hard part, if I can't just buy a few.
I do need a bigger variac to play here.
Some heatsinks, as in 8?
No need for a variac, just run it the no fear way, flick the switch
I tend to do it like this, simply because this way keeps me on my toes, so I do it right first time, I get sloppy if I see a chance to test without consequences.
Magura
Re: just another variation .... Magura like
And Magura sez: loose that negative supply
Magura
Zen Mod said:
and yes - Magura also sez
And Magura sez: loose that negative supply
Magura
Re: Re: just another variation .... Magura like
Magura is lazy ............. and I won't tell ya why having neg is good .......
....... not having input caps isn't main reason
Magura said:
And Magura sez: loose that negative supply
Magura
Magura is lazy ............. and I won't tell ya why having neg is good .......
....... not having input caps isn't main reason
Re: Re: Re: just another variation .... Magura like
Magura is not lazy, Magura tells fluffy serb why neg rail is bad.
I have a thing against dual supply with 2 different voltages, as high power trafo's are big and expensive. Same goes for caps.....things just grows huge and very expensive.
For low power applications, I agree, no problem with a couple of voltages.
Magura
Zen Mod said:
Magura is lazy ............. and I won't tell ya why having neg is good .......
....... not having input caps isn't main reason
Magura is not lazy, Magura tells fluffy serb why neg rail is bad.
I have a thing against dual supply with 2 different voltages, as high power trafo's are big and expensive. Same goes for caps.....things just grows huge and very expensive.
For low power applications, I agree, no problem with a couple of voltages.
Magura
EUVL said:If you would forgive me :
1) It depends on what your definition of Super Symmetry is. As it is the proposed schematics is basically 2 identical inverting amps joint at the frontend by a current course to form a diff pair. But there is no cross feedback, as in the Pass patent.
Patrick
If I understand Susy correctly, this circuit meet the criteria. Have a closer look at the X-BoSoZ schematics. Papa confirmed it is Susy and the only connection between the two halves there is through the LTP.
More fuel on the debate fire!?!
Terry
Babowana said:Sleepless night . . .
I hardly see the cross feedback (X-feedback).
Cheers,
>><<
Me too. The X is barely detectable, but if Papa says ok?
BTW On a side note, I have become stuck in my armchair, in front of the UP's, so I wont start building just yet
BTW BTW I figure that a 2x18V trafo will do the supply voltages as proposed. Using the plus with the multiplier w/o zener will net you just under 20V for the pos. rail. Regulating the negative to some 10V is not unreasonable. A big'ish mosfet can dispose those 12-14V off, without blowing up
steenoe said:
Regulating the negative to some 10V is not unreasonable. A big'ish mosfet can dispose those 12-14V off, without blowing up
10V and let's be conservative and say 4A. As in 40W of heat for that little detail.
Magura
Magura said:
10V and let's be conservative and say 4A. As in 40W of heat for that little detail.
Magura
Ya' right ofcourse, but saying "big'ish" mosfet. Having a few 123A industrial devices on hand, it didnt cause any concern. For the reg. you can use the biggest and dirty devices, that you have in drawer I even have some very much bigger devices, I will post a pic later, and hope someone can tell how to use those. They hardly need a heatsink for this app
steenoe said:Oh, uh, I see! I didnt think along those lines. You are absolutely right, with heatsink- capacity being the most probable limiting factor, for most DIY'ers.....
BTW Moving those 10V to the upper leg, wont that net you the same overall dissipation
No, as you loose the reg.
Magura
Iain McNeill said:OT on...
Yo, Magura, who's this Mrs Magura? You're mother's joined the audio geek squad???
...OT off
sorry OP
nope ya kwayzee Brit ......... she's his Boss .
few thoughts from Migthy ZM
using special amps with mediocre HiFi spks is insane
so - special amps don't need insane dissipation
so - obtaining 7~10V of neg leg at 3A isn't insane
that's (just maybe) separate donut of 5-7V/100VA for bth channels , if both channels are in same case
benefits are - even if with superposed CCS-es - better CMRR and blahblah , comparing to single leg supply .
so - if you (any of you/us) want special amp ........... then do your homework and find/buy/build some special spks ........ not any ProAc clone or fluffy cheapest Fostex in easiest box drek .
Mighty ZM spoket ......
using special amps with mediocre HiFi spks is insane
so - special amps don't need insane dissipation
so - obtaining 7~10V of neg leg at 3A isn't insane
that's (just maybe) separate donut of 5-7V/100VA for bth channels , if both channels are in same case
benefits are - even if with superposed CCS-es - better CMRR and blahblah , comparing to single leg supply .
so - if you (any of you/us) want special amp ........... then do your homework and find/buy/build some special spks ........ not any ProAc clone or fluffy cheapest Fostex in easiest box drek .
Mighty ZM spoket ......
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