Electrons Of Both Kinds!
I can confirm there are two kinds of Electrons, the first kind obeys the laws of physics, the second kind obeys the wishes of Audiophiles. The second kind is in short supply though.
I thought it had been established that the Bybees are simply resistors of 0.1-0.2 Ohms and perform as such. I'd like to have a listen to them myself, in comparison to said resistors, to put it to bed in my own mind. those who have listened to the Bybees, what were your conclusions?
I can confirm there are two kinds of Electrons, the first kind obeys the laws of physics, the second kind obeys the wishes of Audiophiles. The second kind is in short supply though.
I thought it had been established that the Bybees are simply resistors of 0.1-0.2 Ohms and perform as such. I'd like to have a listen to them myself, in comparison to said resistors, to put it to bed in my own mind. those who have listened to the Bybees, what were your conclusions?
He's promoting his business partner's scam and using this as an attention-getting device. "Hearing" has nothing to do with it.
Thanks to Sy and Cal (and anyone else directly involved) for your rational evaluation of the devices.
I'm sure there are some people who can hear a difference with a 25mOhm resistor in series with their speakers, thus the devices do make a difference.
The difference just is not a reduction in noise, etc as claimed by the seller.
I'm sure there are some people who can hear a difference with a 25mOhm resistor in series with their speakers, thus the devices do make a difference.
The difference just is not a reduction in noise, etc as claimed by the seller.
Actually, I would take it a step further than that. There is always tremendous argument going on at the cutting edge of science, i.e. the "big" questions that each field of science is struggling with, which I know from my experience back many years ago in graduate research. Not just for the more altruistic reason Jan mentions, but that all these researchers are essentially fighting for prominence and the research funding that goes with it. It's actually almost hardwired into the system. Tomtt's comment is even more ridiculous in light of that.
I'm not arguing against that. And I didn't have altruism in mind - and I don't think it figures in it either.
Jan
Something that some folks on this forum can't seem to grasp is that when someone makes a claim, it is not the responsibility of the skeptic to prove it false, it is the responsibility of the claimant to prove it true.
Mike
Mike
see the courts use "extraordinary claim" as a basis, in his mind Baybee just pushes the boundary of "puffery" compared to other low ohm devices.
look at all the claims , are they signed? when you ask the technical stuff then the answers are verbal or by small time dealers.
I remember the TV antennas shaped like a small satellite dish. they made millions from folks thinking they where getting satellite TV for free! later they just put a small disclaimer at the bottom of the ad. "DONT PAY FOR CABLE TV because yer not getting it." yeah they used the words "cable TV" reinforcing buyers wrong conclusions.
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Good one! 
Good what? What has anyone said about anything relevant? What are electrons all about? I looked as best I could at a book on electrons and phonons last night, I could hardly make sense of ANY OF IT. It is that complex. Electron behavior simple? NO WAY! One thing noted in the book is that 2 electrons can occupy the same state IF they have opposite spin. This does make 2 electrons different from each other. Now why some electrons have elastic collisions and other electrons have inelastic collisions, I still do not know much about. AND I doubt that anyone here does.
For the record, I have never been a business partner with Jack Bybee, but I have designed a few electronic circuits for some of his projects, over 2 decades. He and I do not see each other, often, perhaps once or twice a year, and then usually at an audio show. Jack does, on occasion, give me some of his efforts, that appear, like magic to me, seemingly out of nowhere, but they appear to work as he says, when I put them in my audio system, so I keep them there, as they don't cost me anything. That is all there is to it.
For the record, I have never been a business partner with Jack Bybee, but I have designed a few electronic circuits for some of his projects, over 2 decades. He and I do not see each other, often, perhaps once or twice a year, and then usually at an audio show. Jack does, on occasion, give me some of his efforts, that appear, like magic to me, seemingly out of nowhere, but they appear to work as he says, when I put them in my audio system, so I keep them there, as they don't cost me anything. That is all there is to it.
Music Rails
Hi John,
Did you have any input on the Music Rails Power Conditioner, it is something that I would like to try at sometime.
SC
Hi John,
Did you have any input on the Music Rails Power Conditioner, it is something that I would like to try at sometime.
SC
Your last sentence proves the first one. 😀
Bad assumption that everyone else is as ignorant of basic quantum mechanics as you are. There's at least 4 or 5 other people here who have a good working knowledge, and at least one guy who is a world-class expert. If it's important to you, study it; I can recommend some excellent texts. The relevance to audio is pretty much nonexistent except as a source of buzzwords for marketing.
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