Ghangis said:Hi, I just completed a pair of backloaded horns using the F206e.I experimented with a super tweeter but didn,t notice much of an improvement.These are excellent speakers with this cabinet design but sound best with tubes.I found too much harshness and shout with solid state.Don't require much power as well.10-15 watts.Currently running them with an Eico HF-81 and they sound awesome.EL84 output tubes.
Which design did you realised?
10-15 watts might be more than enough for those horns. I think that even a 4 watter would make them play loud enough.
FE206E cabinet
The cabinet I used can be found on the Fostex site under recommended backloaded enclosure for FE206E.I think you're right about the watts required.I can email you the plans for the cabinets I built if you need them.Email me at kevinl@maple.ca if you want them.
The cabinet I used can be found on the Fostex site under recommended backloaded enclosure for FE206E.I think you're right about the watts required.I can email you the plans for the cabinets I built if you need them.Email me at kevinl@maple.ca if you want them.
Re: FE206E cabinet
Thanks for your offer. I'm already aware of Fostex's horn design. As I wrote at the begining of this thread, I have decided to build Ron's Dallas II horn.
Evangelos
Ghangis said:The cabinet I used can be found on the Fostex site under recommended backloaded enclosure for FE206E.I think you're right about the watts required.I can email you the plans for the cabinets I built if you need them.Email me at kevinl@maple.ca if you want them.
Thanks for your offer. I'm already aware of Fostex's horn design. As I wrote at the begining of this thread, I have decided to build Ron's Dallas II horn.
Evangelos
Re: Re: FE206E cabinet
Why the Dallas II.. ??
kenev said:
Thanks for your offer. I'm already aware of Fostex's horn design. As I wrote at the begining of this thread, I have decided to build Ron's Dallas II horn.
Evangelos
Why the Dallas II.. ??
Scottmoose said:You can't use the FE167E in a horn, but the 166 is a popular option.
Scott
What is wrong with using the FE 167 E in a horn ??
weidok said:What is wrong with using the FE 167 E in a horn ??
Some people use FE167Es in horns (high-end ones at that) to very good effect. see:
http://www.decware.com/newsite/cornerhorn.htm
The FE166E is usually recommended though as it is pretty much the same speaker with a larger magnet, instead of a being shielded.
Horns like high Fs/Qts ratios.
Robert 🙂
Look what I found... ahahah
Guijs, have you started yet your BLH?? I'm very anxious for a review.
I've seen a page that were made a cabinet with 12 fullranges drivers... that surprised me. When looking for details I found your topic here.
Good Luck!
MEX (STF)
Guijs, have you started yet your BLH?? I'm very anxious for a review.
I've seen a page that were made a cabinet with 12 fullranges drivers... that surprised me. When looking for details I found your topic here.
Good Luck!
MEX (STF)
Hello MEX 😀 !
I'll start to build my BLH on the next weekend! The wood pieces are ready.
Intersting this cabinet you said... a Line array with Full Ranges?
I'll start to build my BLH on the next weekend! The wood pieces are ready.
Intersting this cabinet you said... a Line array with Full Ranges?
Yes... actually the owner doesn´t specify if the driver is a fullrange or not. But I´m quit sure the it is.
He used a Ribbon tweeter for the higher frequencies and twelve drivers. It´s quite strange, but seems interesting...
Don´t you know?
http://www.mrweb.com.br/fvm/
SPEAKERS -> L.A. Fidelity
It´s in portuguese, sorry guys...
MEX
He used a Ribbon tweeter for the higher frequencies and twelve drivers. It´s quite strange, but seems interesting...
Don´t you know?
http://www.mrweb.com.br/fvm/
SPEAKERS -> L.A. Fidelity
It´s in portuguese, sorry guys...
MEX
Hey Guijs,
how's your project doing?
I think we're on the same project. I'm building the Fostex recommended enclosure for the FE108EZ.
Started last weekend and had like 1-2 hours per day this week for glueing things together...pretty much straight forward. One Speaker is almost done (like 7 to 8 hrs work). Will hopefully finish by the end of next week.
The fun part is, you can put it together without really checking if everything is in the right place (like right distance from each other...), because only two parts (5, 22) are not connected to any other parts which would hold them in place.
I started with the exponetial part in the middle, then with the lower part and finally the part where the driver is mounted.
I'm building it with 16mm MFD, which i will be sealing off before finally putting the three parts in the enclosure. The sealant makes the MFD really hard and almost shiny if you soak it well. I'm really looking forward to do the paintjob on such a surface.
I use waterproof glue, because the sealant is water-based (I don't like the smelly stuff plus the water-based stuff can dry in the apartement).
I decided to do the sealing after the glueing-stuff, because the plain wood can soak more glue that way; makes stronger bonds.
Hopefully I can post some picture this weekend.
Have Fun,
Dave
how's your project doing?
I think we're on the same project. I'm building the Fostex recommended enclosure for the FE108EZ.
Started last weekend and had like 1-2 hours per day this week for glueing things together...pretty much straight forward. One Speaker is almost done (like 7 to 8 hrs work). Will hopefully finish by the end of next week.
The fun part is, you can put it together without really checking if everything is in the right place (like right distance from each other...), because only two parts (5, 22) are not connected to any other parts which would hold them in place.
I started with the exponetial part in the middle, then with the lower part and finally the part where the driver is mounted.
I'm building it with 16mm MFD, which i will be sealing off before finally putting the three parts in the enclosure. The sealant makes the MFD really hard and almost shiny if you soak it well. I'm really looking forward to do the paintjob on such a surface.
I use waterproof glue, because the sealant is water-based (I don't like the smelly stuff plus the water-based stuff can dry in the apartement).
I decided to do the sealing after the glueing-stuff, because the plain wood can soak more glue that way; makes stronger bonds.
Hopefully I can post some picture this weekend.
Have Fun,
Dave
Forgot something:
Will the FE108EZ mind being connected to a 4 Ohm output of an old, kinda crappy, but fun ECF80/EL86 10W tube-amp?
The amp has got a 12,5 Ohm and 4 Ohm output. The FE108EZ is rated 8 Ohms, as far as I know.
Will the FE108EZ mind being connected to a 4 Ohm output of an old, kinda crappy, but fun ECF80/EL86 10W tube-amp?
The amp has got a 12,5 Ohm and 4 Ohm output. The FE108EZ is rated 8 Ohms, as far as I know.
Hello RodeoDave!
I'll start to build the enclosures tomorow, on the weekend. I've made a CAD drawing of the pieces and cut it with a laser machine! So the pieces are exactly perfect and you can do some rabbets like puzzle. I'll post some pictures on the sunday.
I'm using 15mm Naval Plywood, like the plan recomends. It will be very easy to build.
About your amplifier, the only thing I know is that you can use a 4ohms amplifier with a 8ohm driver, no problem. The amplifier will send half the power to the speaker.
I'll use a Pioneer receiver just to break-in the speakers, and after this i'll start to test some tube-amplifiers!
Good Luck
Guilherme
I'll start to build the enclosures tomorow, on the weekend. I've made a CAD drawing of the pieces and cut it with a laser machine! So the pieces are exactly perfect and you can do some rabbets like puzzle. I'll post some pictures on the sunday.
I'm using 15mm Naval Plywood, like the plan recomends. It will be very easy to build.
About your amplifier, the only thing I know is that you can use a 4ohms amplifier with a 8ohm driver, no problem. The amplifier will send half the power to the speaker.
I'll use a Pioneer receiver just to break-in the speakers, and after this i'll start to test some tube-amplifiers!
Good Luck
Guilherme
I have finished the Fostex FE108ex enclosure this weekend. Tomorow i'll star the auditions.
One question: Did you guys round the speaker hole? Because with this little driver, I didn't feel that it have too much space for the air to flow nicely!
One question: Did you guys round the speaker hole? Because with this little driver, I didn't feel that it have too much space for the air to flow nicely!
Yep, I always bevel the cutout on the back of the speaker baffle, takes so little time to do anyway. Will you post some pics when done?
Well, I did it too. Not as much as I wanted, but I did. I have some pictures here, i'll post wne everything is done.
Thanks
Thanks
We usually clear as much space as possiblt to enable airflow from the back of the driver... usually a 45 degree angle... my newest ones thou -- with a 1/2" baffle & rebated to flush mount the driver didn't need it.
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=731378#post731378
dave
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=731378#post731378
dave
Hey Guijs,
can't wait to see the pics...
I hope that I'll finsh mine by the end of the week.
What kind of damping material did you use? And how much?
can't wait to see the pics...

I hope that I'll finsh mine by the end of the week.
What kind of damping material did you use? And how much?
Here are some pictures of the construction!
Last 2 pictures is just an improvisation! I'll make a better fisinh on the wood later, and i'm preparing the shelf to receive the loudspeakers.
Embalando pra terminar em casa...
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WOW! Nice work!
Didn't know that plywood can be laser-cut...impressive.
A few questions:
The cavity below the driver will be filled with sand, right?
What damping material did you use? Looks like some kind of foam-thingy...
I can see that you are using the original parts (#29) to fill the compression-chamber. Are there spaces between them so that they fit the 170mm? I'm thinking about using two 170mm wide pieces instead. But I'm not sure yet...
What do they sound like?
Didn't know that plywood can be laser-cut...impressive.
A few questions:
The cavity below the driver will be filled with sand, right?
What damping material did you use? Looks like some kind of foam-thingy...
I can see that you are using the original parts (#29) to fill the compression-chamber. Are there spaces between them so that they fit the 170mm? I'm thinking about using two 170mm wide pieces instead. But I'm not sure yet...
What do they sound like?
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