Babelfish M25 R.2/SET amp

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name of the game was to create SIT amp for Greedy Boyz Hordes ......

naah, I don't care for Hordes, I have all the fun :clown:

logical thing would be to put emulated SIT in same position as in DEFiSIT/SissySIT, which is positive rail; from some reasons I tried in simulations to put it down (lower rail), then realized that that approach is resulting in difficulties - choice of small P channel mosfets for Source follower/level shifter, having low threshold Ugs is much smaller than counterparts in N polarity

however, me being stubborn as I am, stayed with P channel .......

SF Ugs is important, beacuse it is additive to feed point of Schaded mosfet, which in this case we have as -3V8 (ref to output) , then Ugs of TP2640, so resulting biasing voltage at TP2640 gate is around -5V4, ref to output

in same time , Ugs of upper mosfet is +4V42, which means that resistances from rails to adjacent gates are still pretty symmetrical

one of interesting things - of all lately seen amps, only this one is having same current distribution of output parts as real DEFiSIT is having - up to clipping point of more active part, parts are working in antiphase , fighting each other..... and only at and after clipping, lesser acting part ( one with lesser xconductance) is hel;ping other onee

see attached - graph from sim, but confirmed in vivo....... though, easier to post this than capturing scope screen ..... counting on fact that I have a scope from Lee De Forest time, but before triode invention :clown:

sim shown from output sine of around 20Vpp @ 8R load

biggest sine - upper mosfet current
smaller sine - current through load
smallest sine - Schaded mosfet current
 

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Hard facts

THD measurements

+/-24Vdc rails, Iq 1A5 , 8R Load
 

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some funny porn, as proof that I changed something

:clown:

when I made those few changes from Babelfish M25 R.2 ( few resistors, TP2640), after flipping power switch - Iq came to same value as it was set for B. M25

all what was needed is to correct DC Offset, for 400mV or so

easypeasybreazy
 

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much more Greenies, little more details

in the end, it is - snatch those you can easier

regarding "simple" ........ behind every decent signal xformer is serious expertise ....... price is sole funny detail when Edcor PC is in case - it is much better product than price is telling
 
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LTSpice sez neg

I'm not measuring that:
- QA400 I have can't do that (or I don't know how)
- EMU1212 which I use routinely is having problem with other channel, and you need duplex for Phase
- have no time/will/energy to make/obtain another gadget with notch filtering, even if Pa simply adores comparative wigglywiggly pictures

I simply leave by ear preferred speaker polarity; when I'm in special mood, I even succeed in getting same polarity of both speakers :clown:

interesting, LTS is not erring much, comparing to real life



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Harmonic	Frequency	 Fourier 	Normalized	 Phase  	Normalized
 Number 	  [Hz]   	Component	 Component	[degree]	Phase [deg]
    1   	1.000e+03	3.907e+00	1.000e+00	   -0.08°	    0.00°
    2   	2.000e+03	4.109e-03	1.052e-03	  -89.55°	  -89.47°
    3   	3.000e+03	5.531e-04	1.416e-04	    7.76°	    7.84°
    4   	4.000e+03	7.574e-05	1.939e-05	   95.23°	   95.31°
    5   	5.000e+03	1.130e-05	2.894e-06	 -169.54°	 -169.47°
    6   	6.000e+03	1.460e-06	3.736e-07	  -99.64°	  -99.56°
    7   	7.000e+03	2.508e-07	6.420e-08	  167.26°	  167.33°
    8   	8.000e+03	3.877e-07	9.925e-08	  176.54°	  176.62°
    9   	9.000e+03	3.370e-07	8.627e-08	 -179.77°	 -179.69°
   10   	1.000e+04	3.027e-07	7.748e-08	 -179.90°	 -179.82°
Total Harmonic Distortion: 0.106158%(0.106159%)
 
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