Not really. Where are the noise skirt measurements? Stereo spatial localization cues assessment? EMI/RFI immunity measurements for a realistic PC USB bus (not a super clean AP USB source)?For $ 20 - 30 you have high end.
Ground loop sensitivity if the analog output is plugged into a home hi-fi preamp or power amp?
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That is 30 db more dynamics than the pcm58, but!!! what is going on, why the pcm has this amazing dream sound like. and the akm4396 NOT. it is not sounding natural, it sounds fake compared to pcm58, you can throw anything with a beat at it and you will groove.Yes, try the JCally jm20 dongle see audio science for review and testing DAC's are a done deal. For $ 20 - 30 you have high end.
Its because the measurements over at ASR are incomplete, although they apparently don't want to admit it.
I bet my pcm58 will trounce in little pieces the tda1541 once it is 'fixed' I have infinite resources to make it sound like 'nirvana' lol wow. this completely changes my audio system. Like I don't think it is possible to beat a pcm58... haha it is the opposite of 'hifi' it is the loofiest dac I have ever heard haha! I have fun listening to vengaboys (up and down, and opus in D# at 3:45... what the ...and ... wow, this is incredible with this dac, so smooth, every single little hits, queues, timing is incredible, Just had to learn how to make this dac sing feeding it with the right stream and synchronization.
pcm58 embodies all the craziness of the 1980s 90s and more it shed new lights on all the music since 1950s... it cannot be listened to otherwise, Cathode Feedback+Pentode+PCM58
If I could rate ess sabre I would rate it 10 on 1000, and this dac 800/1000
pcm58 embodies all the craziness of the 1980s 90s and more it shed new lights on all the music since 1950s... it cannot be listened to otherwise, Cathode Feedback+Pentode+PCM58
If I could rate ess sabre I would rate it 10 on 1000, and this dac 800/1000
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Volts/Time ?Its because the measurements over at ASR are incomplete, although they apparently don't want to admit it.
Sounds very subjective. Like wine testing. I stic to parameters, not taste, likings and impressions.That is 30 db more dynamics than the pcm58, but!!! what is going on, why the pcm has this amazing dream sound like. and the akm4396 NOT. it is not sounding natural, it sounds fake compared to pcm58, you can throw anything with a beat at it and you will groove.
Then why not call the ASR dacs "well measuring, limited to standard measurements?" That would be an accurate description.I stic to parameters...
"High end" is not so well defined, although it may suggest doing well at some combination of both measurements and listening evaluations.
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Its because the measurements over at ASR are incomplete, although they apparently don't want to admit it.
Maybe you can joint the ASR team with your new parameters. If they are viable..Not really. Where are the noise skirt measurements? Stereo spatial localization cues assessment? EMI/RFI immunity measurements for a realistic PC USB bus (not a super clean AP USB source)?
Ground loop sensitivity if the analog output is plugged into a home hi-fi preamp or power amp?
how more science and parameters involved, how better understanding of quality based o objective factors.
Your body likes what is not good for you (... 44kz ... not 196 or more haha) and some thd! and some lack of power etc.
I prefer doing a road trip in a nice low car like a cadillac than a ferrari with a huge motor, noise and hard suspension haha
I prefer doing a road trip in a nice low car like a cadillac than a ferrari with a huge motor, noise and hard suspension haha
They banned me when I tried, although they still show me as an active member in my old posts; I'm just banned from logon. That way they can let people think I stopped posting for my own reasons. Sneaky on their part.Maybe you can joint the ASR team with your new parameters.
Anyway, they don't want to admit there's a problem. But I can link you to some example measurements of things ASR is missing.
In the thread (now closed) "The battle of the DACs, comparison of sound quality between some DACs" there was some discussion (or debating) about the impact of close-in phase noise on DAC output.
One way to measure the phase noise is to look at the noise skirts in FFT spectrum as JosephK did here: https://www.diyaudio.com/community/...jitter-crystal-oscillator.261651/post-6710439. This requires a very small bin size. I decided to make similar measurements with REW albeit the FFT size in REW is limited to 4M. But anybody...
One way to measure the phase noise is to look at the noise skirts in FFT spectrum as JosephK did here: https://www.diyaudio.com/community/...jitter-crystal-oscillator.261651/post-6710439. This requires a very small bin size. I decided to make similar measurements with REW albeit the FFT size in REW is limited to 4M. But anybody...
Building boutique builds for boutique people should not have you arguing adolescent.
You people could be nicer to each other.
The fun and joy of DIYAUDIO flies out the window when people become rude.
We must tolerate each others perspective to some degree of fairness.
Your system, my ears vs your ears and my system. These things can be and are worlds away.
You people could be nicer to each other.
The fun and joy of DIYAUDIO flies out the window when people become rude.
We must tolerate each others perspective to some degree of fairness.
Your system, my ears vs your ears and my system. These things can be and are worlds away.
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PCM "J" = -91, -89.5, -64.. (wow, vs 89, 80, 50 for the stock pcm)... these are very conservative measures!
Pcm cant touch 'hifi' need to get your hands on some ''J" , then you get a 'black' background , more separations of instruments but still it is equal with akm4396, it does have more definition for soloists, for large choirs it still breaks a little bit apart.
I don't think there is a good cheap Chinese dac... a good "j" chip , and the need for THD equipment is not 'cheap', cheap can give you a really good cheap sound !!!
I don't think there is a good cheap Chinese dac... a good "j" chip , and the need for THD equipment is not 'cheap', cheap can give you a really good cheap sound !!!
New AK4499 EX I2S/DSD Audio DAC Decoder 32bit 1536KHZ DSD1024
available as kit, no clue how it sounds, can be easily modified to accommodate a full tube buffer output and bypass all opamps/capacitors.
available as kit, no clue how it sounds, can be easily modified to accommodate a full tube buffer output and bypass all opamps/capacitors.
Sounds very subjective. Like wine testing. I stic to parameters, not taste, likings and impressions.
I taste wine, I listen to stereo equipment.
Of course it is subjective.
I think we've gone this route for a hundred years!
ASR is proof that a little knowledge can be a bad thing.
If you know nothing, then you accept you know nothing. -Most honest people.
If you know something, then you know that you will never know enough. -DIY Audio people, scientists, most engineers and quite a few audiophiles.
If you know a little bit of something, then you think you know it all. - ASR and all of those buyers of 3000 wpc AVRs.
https://www.diyaudio.com/community/threads/pcm63p-k-chips-dac-board-iv-board.427267/
two pcm63-K this is worth a lot by itself!
two pcm63-K this is worth a lot by itself!
Nice, show us the measurements then. Using a 100MHz clock and dividing it internally is a poor design choice as 100MHz clocks have much higher phase noise and there are no benefits. Easier to get better results with a 50MHz clock and skipping the internal divider.Well I am measuring not reading. As said it just works OK at 100 MHz.
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