Calibration complete without any errors, it took approx 10 mins for this. i got default volume shown on display and tested by connecting attentuator to signal.
The sound was good however when i rotate encoder sometimes the volume not moving up/down and its stuck at a specific level. The response is very slow. Not sure whats causing this. The encoder am using is PEC11R-4220F-S0024 obtained from element14.
The sound was good however when i rotate encoder sometimes the volume not moving up/down and its stuck at a specific level. The response is very slow. Not sure whats causing this. The encoder am using is PEC11R-4220F-S0024 obtained from element14.
The sound was good however when i rotate encoder sometimes the volume not moving up/down and its stuck at a specific level. The response is very slow. Not sure whats causing this. The encoder am using is PEC11R-4220F-S0024 obtained from element14.
Not sure why, either. Mine is fluid and responsive.
If you can't find a hardware cause, you could try the debug mode to see how the rotary encoder is sending signals.
All is well. I figured out, its a loose GND on Rotary encoder causing misbehavior.
Its smooth and fitted well in to rest of the chain 🙂
Now await an Apple remote to expand functionality to remote 🙂 🙂
Thanks Vincent77 for sharing this wonderful design and help all through
Its smooth and fitted well in to rest of the chain 🙂
Now await an Apple remote to expand functionality to remote 🙂 🙂
Thanks Vincent77 for sharing this wonderful design and help all through
Its smooth and fitted well in to rest of the chain 🙂
Glad to hear that! Enjoy! 🙂
Vincent, I have managed to patch the code to get repeat to also work now. Only residual issue I have now is sometimes volume goes one step in the wrong direction after a remote up/down keypress. I need to observe this more closely to determine the conditions that lead to this.
Some remotes behave differences in repeat mode, some send only a partial code for repeat to preserve battery power.
Best solution is to capture the code on a storage scope end see after the initial instruction VOL+ or VOL- wheter repeat is just a string of 1's for as long as the button is held down.
Some remotes behave differences in repeat mode, some send only a partial code for repeat to preserve battery power.
Best solution is to capture the code on a storage scope end see after the initial instruction VOL+ or VOL- whether repeat is just a string of 1's for as long as the button is held down.
Hi Nico, I have resolved all my issues with the remote for IDE 1.6.5 and sent them to Vincent. Everything works fine for me but I can't say if it will also work with other Apple remotes. I am using this remote :
Apple Remote - Apple (AU)
The biggest issue seems to be the PulseIn function which has changed in the Arduinio library with almost every IDE release. Thanks for your suggestions. Documentation on the repeat behaviour of these remotes does seem scant.
Voltage regulation: LM340 vs LM7812
Vincent, out of interest, any reason why you're using the LM7808 for the digital regulation and LM340T for the rest? I've read so much conflicting information regarding LM340 vs LM78xx, some say the 340 is a lot better and LM78xx are **** but others prefer the 7812 saying it's a more recent / efficient design.
The datasheet is shared between them and although I haven't been over it with a fine microscope, I can't see anything obvious that stands out.
Do the 340 behave better under a higher load?
Any insights you can give considering you've used both? Why the LM340T-12 instead of the LM7812 ? 🙂
edit: oh and the LM340 cost about six times the LM78 series!
Vincent, out of interest, any reason why you're using the LM7808 for the digital regulation and LM340T for the rest? I've read so much conflicting information regarding LM340 vs LM78xx, some say the 340 is a lot better and LM78xx are **** but others prefer the 7812 saying it's a more recent / efficient design.
The datasheet is shared between them and although I haven't been over it with a fine microscope, I can't see anything obvious that stands out.
Do the 340 behave better under a higher load?
Any insights you can give considering you've used both? Why the LM340T-12 instead of the LM7812 ? 🙂
edit: oh and the LM340 cost about six times the LM78 series!
Tfboy, I used the 340-12 because I already had them, you can of course use the LM7812 instead. For the digital and the relay supplies it doesn't really matter what you use; for the LDR LEDs, the noise is important, the load regulation is not.
One of our Members used a big electrolytic across the LED to filter out the noise that could be picked up by the cables from the 100k pot to the LED pins...............for the LDR LEDs, the noise is important, the load regulation is not.
Anything to change in code if LDR RSE/LSE replaced with fixed resistor (Shunt volume control)?
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If you're replacing the LDR with a fixed resistor, you would need a complete re-write of the code as it uses the variable resistance at measured voltages to control the attenuation.Anything to change in code if LDR RSE/LSE replaced with fixed resistor (Shunt volume control)?
One of our Members used a big electrolytic across the LED to filter out the noise that could be picked up by the cables from the 100k pot to the LED pins.
I wonder whether the big electrolytic is still effective at the high frequencies of the noise...
We used here a ceramic or film cap placed where the LED power supply cables connect to the board.
If you're replacing the LDR with a fixed resistor, you would need a complete re-write of the code as it uses the variable resistance at measured voltages to control the attenuation.
Yes, as tfboy said, no easy way to do that without rewriting a lot of code.
@Vincent, I finally got some time to assemble and hook up the input board. The solderability of the boards from shenzhen2U was poor this time - there must have been some sort of film on them. After cleaning with isopropanol they were OK.
Everything seems to work OK. A few minor issues :
1. There is a loud pop when I switch from a loaded input to an unloaded one. I may look at the code to see if there is any muting ahead of input switching?
2. After switching inputs the -> on the display changes to a square cursor like block. If you press the menu key on the remote it changes back to ->. I guess there needs to be one additional display update added somewhere in the code?
Now I will look into putting it all into a case.
Everything seems to work OK. A few minor issues :
1. There is a loud pop when I switch from a loaded input to an unloaded one. I may look at the code to see if there is any muting ahead of input switching?
2. After switching inputs the -> on the display changes to a square cursor like block. If you press the menu key on the remote it changes back to ->. I guess there needs to be one additional display update added somewhere in the code?
Now I will look into putting it all into a case.
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Hi Vincent,
I tested yesterday your LDR volume in my system: Esoteric K-03 -> Viva Solista -> Sonus Faber Amati Anniversario.
?????????? ?? ?? Sonus Faber | AVsite
I have to say that it is the most transparent pre I have ever heard. Congratulations.
I had a small issue with the enconder but I used 2 100n to cw/ccw and is OK now.
One question: Can it drive a power amp. with 10K or a power amp. with 47K input impedance. Why you write in the code that it must be over 100K ?
Thanks.
I tested yesterday your LDR volume in my system: Esoteric K-03 -> Viva Solista -> Sonus Faber Amati Anniversario.
?????????? ?? ?? Sonus Faber | AVsite
I have to say that it is the most transparent pre I have ever heard. Congratulations.
I had a small issue with the enconder but I used 2 100n to cw/ccw and is OK now.
One question: Can it drive a power amp. with 10K or a power amp. with 47K input impedance. Why you write in the code that it must be over 100K ?
Thanks.
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1. There is a loud pop when I switch from a loaded input to an unloaded one. I may look at the code to see if there is any muting ahead of input switching?
2. After switching inputs the -> on the display changes to a square cursor like block. If you press the menu key on the remote it changes back to ->. I guess there needs to be one additional display update added somewhere in the code?
Hello!
There is indeed a faint pop when I switch between the inputs, but in my preamp it is not loud - I didn't notice it before.
But I agree, I should temporarily mute the output while switching the inputs, thanks for the idea! I'll write the code when I have some time. It's not difficult, you might be able to do it yourself.
After switching the inputs or the outputs, the arrow changes indeed to a block, to mark the active line - you can switch the active line with the middle remote button, to choose between the inputs and the outputs.
The block automatically changes back to an arrow after a few seconds.
Vincent
Hi Vincent,
I tested yesterday your LDR volume in my system: Esoteric K-03 -> Viva Solista -> Sonus Faber Amati Anniversario.
?????????? ?? ?? Sonus Faber | AVsite
I have to say that it is the most transparent pre I have ever heard. Congratulations.
I had a small issue with the enconder but I used 2 100n to cw/ccw and is OK now.
One question: Can it drive a power amp. with 10K or a power amp. with 47K input impedance. Why you write in the code that it must be over 100K ?
Thanks.
Hello Theodosis,
I am glad that you like the LDR attenuator and congrats for your nice audiophile system!
Sorry I didn't respond earlier, but I was on holidays (in Greece, lovely country).
You can drive an amp with 47K input impedance without problems. Set
#define LOAD_IMPEDANCE 47000
in the code and it will work ok.
I wrote in the code that it should be 100K because usually we want the load impedance to be larger than the source impedance, but 47k or even 25k amplifier input impedance should be ok.
You may also want to try to set the nominal impedance of the LDR attenuator to
#define NOM_IMPEDANCE 5000
and see if you like it more than 10000 (of course you will have to do a calibration process each time you change these parameters).
Vincent
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Thank you Vincent,
Actually, my First One amplifier has 10K input impedance.
So I will set LOAD_IMPEDANCE=NOM_IMPEDANCE=10000
Is it OK for your LDR volume, regarding sound quality ?
(You must visit the Greek islands in summer !!!)
Actually, my First One amplifier has 10K input impedance.
So I will set LOAD_IMPEDANCE=NOM_IMPEDANCE=10000
Is it OK for your LDR volume, regarding sound quality ?
(You must visit the Greek islands in summer !!!)
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(You must visit the Greek islands in summer !!!)
Flights already booked for August! 😉 As usual... 😀
Thank you Vincent,
Actually, my First One amplifier has 10K input impedance.
So I will set LOAD_IMPEDANCE=NOM_IMPEDANCE=10000
Is it OK for your LDR volume, regarding sound quality ?
(You must visit the Greek islands in summer !!!)
Hello,
Yes, it will work!
BTW, I was in Athens and Santorini last week. 😉
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