I had a cht-15 bought it a couple of years ago but it is gone now 🙁
I tried emailing aespeakers and i got a reply and they said they had over 700 messages and they are trying to get though them all. I might hold up for awhile longer and see if I can get hold of an av12.
I tried emailing aespeakers and i got a reply and they said they had over 700 messages and they are trying to get though them all. I might hold up for awhile longer and see if I can get hold of an av12.
If you don't fancy the pro subs or the importing costs then you could try a -long- session going through the better brands of car subs and modelling them in winISD. The later version has loads of car subs in it's database. Watch the x-max figs on them, some are low excursion compared to the adire etc stuff..
Just did an 18" JL in a ~300L (might have been nearer 400 on second thoughts) box. Did your -3dB @ 15Hz requirement.
btw - don't forget about room gain when you model, unless you actually want a boomy response in room. - For example in my room a sub would need to be modelled to -10dB @ 15Hz to be measured flat 'in room'
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/show...highlight=room+gain+in+real+life&pagenumber=2
Cheers,
Rob.
Just did an 18" JL in a ~300L (might have been nearer 400 on second thoughts) box. Did your -3dB @ 15Hz requirement.
btw - don't forget about room gain when you model, unless you actually want a boomy response in room. - For example in my room a sub would need to be modelled to -10dB @ 15Hz to be measured flat 'in room'
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/show...highlight=room+gain+in+real+life&pagenumber=2
Cheers,
Rob.
My room gain plots have vanished on that post due to my changing locations. I'll PM a moderator to get the post edited with the new location.
Thanks Richie00boy
If I had some money to invest I think I'd get a bunch of 15's built for selling in the UK / Europe. Surely must be some money to be made doing this, seeing as there seems to be none on the market here.
Rob.
If I had some money to invest I think I'd get a bunch of 15's built for selling in the UK / Europe. Surely must be some money to be made doing this, seeing as there seems to be none on the market here.
Rob.
I've PMd Pinkmouse but maybe he's away or too busy to edit the posts.
Do you reckon there's mileage in 15 inch subs in the UK? Might be worth Shadow Works putting some out, their 12 inch stuff is fantastic. Why not drop them an email?
Do you reckon there's mileage in 15 inch subs in the UK? Might be worth Shadow Works putting some out, their 12 inch stuff is fantastic. Why not drop them an email?
I doubt just in the UK, but add in demand from all of europe and there should be enough. I doubt if it would buy me a house though😀
Rob.
Rob.
After speaking with them some time ago I doubt Shadowworks will produce 10's, or 15's subwoofer for some time and mabye even never.
From a production perspective a 10's costs the same to make as a 12 inch woofer but its not worth the smaller mark up.
Plus you need find and test decent range of baskets for different sizes so it really is a big job.
If you look the best sales is often 12's anyway.
You've definitly got a point re: 10" manufacture vs 12".
There are 12" subs and 10" subs available to buy in the UK albeit very few. There doesn't seem to be any 15" subs available in Europe at all! (Specifically for home users) I'd imagine most decent oem manufacturers have enough baskets in their 'pro' range to adapt, leaving only the heavier cone, surround, magnet and voice coil to sort out😀 Don't read much into this btw - I've no idea what goes into speaker r&d... I believe eminence built the shivas and tempest though..
It just seems odd to me that in a whole continent you're unable to buy a 15" sub.
Cheers,
Rob
Phillfyspoon - I'm suffering a bit too. I bought 3 tempests with a plan to upgrade to 4 when I could afford it. Ready to buy now but can't get one. If I sell my 3 on theres nothing to replace them with, and if I keep them I'm still one short.
How about the lab12 drivers? A bit of a fudge but 'kind of' near your f3 of 15Hz..
There are 12" subs and 10" subs available to buy in the UK albeit very few. There doesn't seem to be any 15" subs available in Europe at all! (Specifically for home users) I'd imagine most decent oem manufacturers have enough baskets in their 'pro' range to adapt, leaving only the heavier cone, surround, magnet and voice coil to sort out😀 Don't read much into this btw - I've no idea what goes into speaker r&d... I believe eminence built the shivas and tempest though..
It just seems odd to me that in a whole continent you're unable to buy a 15" sub.
Cheers,
Rob
Phillfyspoon - I'm suffering a bit too. I bought 3 tempests with a plan to upgrade to 4 when I could afford it. Ready to buy now but can't get one. If I sell my 3 on theres nothing to replace them with, and if I keep them I'm still one short.
How about the lab12 drivers? A bit of a fudge but 'kind of' near your f3 of 15Hz..
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well, i want one too...but i'm in the Netherlands. Maybe we can order them from the states..and let them ship to europe..so we can share the shippingcosts.
I already checked the shipping costs from the Netherlands to the UK for 30lbs. That will be around 30 euro's, so that's about 20 GBP.
luukie,
Do you have to pay import tax / vat (sales tax) on them when they arrive ?
I believe posting from Europe to the uk is tax free now ?
(Am thinking of buying 4 x AV15 and selling the tempests on, if it works out viable ~ £550)
Rob
Do you have to pay import tax / vat (sales tax) on them when they arrive ?
I believe posting from Europe to the uk is tax free now ?
(Am thinking of buying 4 x AV15 and selling the tempests on, if it works out viable ~ £550)
Rob
Well, if we can work this out, I think it's better to send the whole order to the UK and then send one from the uk to me. I think that's the most cost efficient way, if you (Rob) are in.
Could you please email me an adress in the uk, so I can figure out what the cheapest way it is to ship it to Europe?
Oh and could one of you please find out how much it is to ship one driver (about 30 lbs right? not sure though) from the Uk to the Netherlands?
Could you please email me an adress in the uk, so I can figure out what the cheapest way it is to ship it to Europe?
Oh and could one of you please find out how much it is to ship one driver (about 30 lbs right? not sure though) from the Uk to the Netherlands?
Right,
Phillfyspoon - what did you want - av12 or av15 ?
If you confirm I'll phone up AE and get some quotes for delivery to UK.
About to check now on import duty.....
Please bear in mind I'll only do this if it works out cheap enough for me - I can't go over £550 for 4 units.
Cheers,
Rob
Phillfyspoon - what did you want - av12 or av15 ?
If you confirm I'll phone up AE and get some quotes for delivery to UK.
About to check now on import duty.....
Please bear in mind I'll only do this if it works out cheap enough for me - I can't go over £550 for 4 units.
Cheers,
Rob
you can check the price here:
http://yellow.mynethost.com/~bv126368/shop/catalog/
I don't know if the site is up to date though but I really hope we can work this out...
The import duty is 10% in the Netherlands and we have to pay 19% vat over the total amount incl. shipping.
http://yellow.mynethost.com/~bv126368/shop/catalog/
I don't know if the site is up to date though but I really hope we can work this out...
The import duty is 10% in the Netherlands and we have to pay 19% vat over the total amount incl. shipping.
Am waiting for a quote including shipping to UK.....
If I send a speaker to you you won't pay import or vat as its already been paid here... I think.
The speakers are $1020 + shipping, import duty and vat... (to UK)
Not looking too viable at the moment. 🙁
Rob
If I send a speaker to you you won't pay import or vat as its already been paid here... I think.
The speakers are $1020 + shipping, import duty and vat... (to UK)
Not looking too viable at the moment. 🙁
Rob
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