Good news, folks, the future last version will arrive soon. Great improvements, as it fires in...
0.77µs !!! This time, I'm fully satisfied.
One C.I. added and few resistances, and output to drive fans at two speeds as requested by L.C. Totally complete for your future projects. I have 1/4 comparator left, if somebody have a requisite 🙂
0.77µs !!! This time, I'm fully satisfied.
One C.I. added and few resistances, and output to drive fans at two speeds as requested by L.C. Totally complete for your future projects. I have 1/4 comparator left, if somebody have a requisite 🙂
Hi Esperado
greetings thanks for really working so hard on this project please post
complete BOM of project if its possible
warm regards
andrew lebon
greetings thanks for really working so hard on this project please post
complete BOM of project if its possible
warm regards
andrew lebon
Having a section of an IC left over always drove me crazy 😀Good news, folks, the future last version will arrive soon. Great improvements, as it fires in...
0.77µs !!! This time, I'm fully satisfied.
One C.I. added and few resistances, and output to drive fans at two speeds as requested by L.C. Totally complete for your future projects. I have 1/4 comparator left, if somebody have a requisite 🙂
Christophe,
That circuit looks more complicated than some of the amplifiers you are trying to protect. Do you have any idea what the build cost for your design is going to cost?
Steven
That circuit looks more complicated than some of the amplifiers you are trying to protect. Do you have any idea what the build cost for your design is going to cost?
Steven
How's this coming along? I still have a part complete layout here, waiting for a final version of the schematic, but I won't progress it any further until all parts are known and known to be available. This requires a BOM complete with part sources where I can download the datasheets that so that I can cross-check the footprints.
A functional description of the circuit is also required, complete in every detail. I haven't got time to sit around figuring out what it's supposed to do, the last time I looked at it it I had to correct several errors before I could understand it. One of you other guys will have to give me an assurance that you have read the description and subjected the circuit to a critical review. I will also need to know any special constraints regarding physical layout and preferred dimensions for the board.
When the schematic is complete I will copy it into the software tool I like to use and re-post it. Someone must check it and make me aware of any errors.
I'll do the layout if it's made easy for me, but I will NOT drive the process, I have too much else on my plate at the moment.
A functional description of the circuit is also required, complete in every detail. I haven't got time to sit around figuring out what it's supposed to do, the last time I looked at it it I had to correct several errors before I could understand it. One of you other guys will have to give me an assurance that you have read the description and subjected the circuit to a critical review. I will also need to know any special constraints regarding physical layout and preferred dimensions for the board.
When the schematic is complete I will copy it into the software tool I like to use and re-post it. Someone must check it and make me aware of any errors.
I'll do the layout if it's made easy for me, but I will NOT drive the process, I have too much else on my plate at the moment.
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I have 1/4 comparator left, if somebody have a requisite 🙂
How about some kind of temperature sensor trigger circuit. The biggest reason electronics usually eventually fail is temperature.
hi esperado,
are OP1 and OP2 operation in correct sequense? when output mosfet relay are enabled and so with OP1 and OP2, so the signal are suppressed from the input. pls correct me if i am wrong
are OP1 and OP2 operation in correct sequense? when output mosfet relay are enabled and so with OP1 and OP2, so the signal are suppressed from the input. pls correct me if i am wrong
I cannot find the schematic currently as it was on my old dead Mac harddisk. I will post it soon. I will scan it if required.
Gajanan Phadte
Gajanan Phadte
This sounds interesting, perhaps something to learn, whether it is good, bad doesn't matter - can you post a schematic ?
I found this: Transistor amplifier protective circuit
but it doesn't look like a very comprehensive protection
Hi Esperado
greetings can LT1364CN8/PBF BE USED INSTEAD OF LT1365 as i had ordered these ics before changes to schematic were made as the ics just arrived by mail any
problem if i use them
warm regards
andrew lebon
greetings can LT1364CN8/PBF BE USED INSTEAD OF LT1365 as i had ordered these ics before changes to schematic were made as the ics just arrived by mail any
problem if i use them
warm regards
andrew lebon
Various answers:
The cost will be minimal, apart the relays.
The BOM will be published, for the board can be designed. ,but you can help too to find the best parts too.
The schematic *looks* complex, it is not. Only 4 CIs, for all the feature including soft start, instant cut at power off, or AC power failure, temperature sensor and future fan's management. on two temps.
You are not obliged to populate the parts you do not need. And, in smd, will not be very large.
Yes, the way the input works is correct.
In case of failure of the amp, (sending DC, or HF as an example) the output is still monitored, while the input is shorted and don't go to the amp any more. So, the amp is supposed to produce no signal in output. If no failure, the protection will go in normal work 5 seconds later.
In case of short circuit on the output line, in some µs, the signal will be cut in the input of the amp, then, the output relay, protecting your amp both way.
In case of sudden DC in the input, the protection will fire. Then when the cap will be charged, return in normal work. Instant, the protection will fire again, because will be DC out of the amp, and no more in input.
May-be i can use the last unused CI to monitor better this last case.
The cost will be minimal, apart the relays.
The BOM will be published, for the board can be designed. ,but you can help too to find the best parts too.
The schematic *looks* complex, it is not. Only 4 CIs, for all the feature including soft start, instant cut at power off, or AC power failure, temperature sensor and future fan's management. on two temps.
You are not obliged to populate the parts you do not need. And, in smd, will not be very large.
Yes, the way the input works is correct.
In case of failure of the amp, (sending DC, or HF as an example) the output is still monitored, while the input is shorted and don't go to the amp any more. So, the amp is supposed to produce no signal in output. If no failure, the protection will go in normal work 5 seconds later.
In case of short circuit on the output line, in some µs, the signal will be cut in the input of the amp, then, the output relay, protecting your amp both way.
In case of sudden DC in the input, the protection will fire. Then when the cap will be charged, return in normal work. Instant, the protection will fire again, because will be DC out of the amp, and no more in input.
May-be i can use the last unused CI to monitor better this last case.
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Any OPA for the two first stages can be used, as long as they are fast enough.Hi Esperado
greetings can LT1364CN8/PBF BE USED INSTEAD OF LT1365 as i had ordered these ics before changes to schematic were made as the ics just arrived by mail any
problem if i use them
warm regards
andrew lebon
Don't use the LT1716, it has been replaced by cheap and easy to find LM339. LT1716 Will not work any more, as it is not open collector.
New version in some hours.
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Please, do not post it here, to not confuse visitors, open your own thread or do-it by PM.I cannot find the schematic
Thanks.
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Originally Posted by gmphadte
I cannot find the schematic
Please, do not post it here, to not confuse visitors, open your own thread or do-it by PM.
Thanks.
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I have already PMed the link to those interested.
Gajanan Phadte
Originally Posted by gmphadte
I cannot find the schematic
Please, do not post it here, to not confuse visitors, open your own thread or do-it by PM.
Thanks.
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I have already PMed the link to those interested.
Gajanan Phadte
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I think you are right: i made a mistake reporting the schematic (on my own protection, the input relay was in serial.) Thanks. Will be corrected in the last version.at normal working condition.. the output relays are energized is that correct?
Christophe,
You are proposing a thermocouple to monitor the heat rise of the transistors? I guess you would just set that to the maximum allowed temperature before shutdown as your trigger?
You are proposing a thermocouple to monitor the heat rise of the transistors? I guess you would just set that to the maximum allowed temperature before shutdown as your trigger?
hi esperado,
are OP1 and OP2 operation in correct sequense? when output mosfet relay are enabled and so with OP1 and OP2, so the signal are suppressed from the input. pls correct me if i am wrong
Yes , I think the same 🙄
It is a thermistor CTN, looks fine, don't you find ?Christophe,
You are proposing a thermocouple to monitor the heat rise of the transistors? I guess you would just set that to the maximum allowed temperature before shutdown as your trigger?
NTCAIMME3C90373 http://www.vishay.com/docs/29131/ntcaimme3c90373.pdf
The error on the input is yet corrected, it was here, because i changed my mind, not finished, and forgotten !
I will publish the schematic this night.
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