Oh sorry, I should clarify, I meant as a power amp for headphones, much less power needed. Thanks for the reply, I didn't know that this little amp could even power speakers. If so, I may just build a set, would be a first for me since I'm only a headphone listener.I have high efficiency speakers (98 dB) and have tried my ACP+ as a power amp. It sounded great, but the bass seemed a bit weak.
Considering that the ACP+ PSU has 250mA for each channel, what exactly were you expecting? 😁😁😁I have high efficiency speakers (98 dB) and have tried my ACP+ as a power amp. It sounded great, but the bass seemed a bit weak.
Given any speaker has higher inductance at the low end than a headphone, that is to be expected with lower damping factor and limited current outputI have high efficiency speakers (98 dB) and have tried my ACP+ as a power amp. It sounded great, but the bass seemed a bit weak.
It has plenty enough juice for cans 😏Oh sorry, I should clarify, I meant as a power amp for headphones, much less power needed. Thanks for the reply, I didn't know that this little amp could even power speakers. If so, I may just build a set, would be a first for me since I'm only a headphone listener.
I will try using the DAC as a volume control though, that sounds interesting. I thought I read that using digital volume control limited the dynamic range or something like that which is most of the reason I've never bothered with it even though my DAC has a volume knob and a preamp mode.Thanks for the video and the mods, I'll try them out soon when parts arrive.
Also, have you tried digital volume control and running the amp as a power amp? Meaning you open the potentiometer volume all the way and use your dac as volume control, if your dac has volume control. I tend to get better audio that way.
The weak bass was actually what I expected. I just wanted to see what it would do on its own and what kind of changes I could hear when I added the ACAs back into the chain. Another member had suggested I give it a try and I was impressed with the results.Considering that the ACP+ PSU has 250mA for each channel, what exactly were you expecting? 😁😁😁
Yes, it absolutely does. Might affect SNR as well? I'm unsure on that part but digital volume control throws out the bitsI will try using the DAC as a volume control though, that sounds interesting. I thought I read that using digital volume control limited the dynamic range or something like that which is most of the reason I've never bothered with it even though my DAC has a volume knob and a preamp mode.
Not a particularly big deal if you already are on a 32bit S-D as the real range is more of 24bit but I'm unsure if it cuts off from the real range when using digital volume control
It's not so much that the digital volume control is so good but rather the ALPS volume potentiometers are just ok and the audio quality is improved if you bypass it using digital volume control, that is if your dac is well built and has a quality power supply or even better replace it with a resistor step attenuator. Reading this thread, a step attenuator volume control is a significant upgrade. That's probably my next mod.I will try using the DAC as a volume control though, that sounds interesting. I thought I read that using digital volume control limited the dynamic range or something like that which is most of the reason I've never bothered with it even though my DAC has a volume knob and a preamp mode.
1% distortion looks way too high to me. How much bias is your amp running at? What is the voltage before the output cap?Let me know if you have any questions or comments, happy to discuss.
How do I measure the amp bias?1% distortion looks way too high to me. How much bias is your amp running at? What is the voltage before the output cap?
Measure voltages across R12 (Ur12) and R13 (Ur13).How do I measure the amp bias?
Current through them is Ur12/R12 and Ur13/R13.
Thanks, that is great. And the accompanying boards for volume etc?
What volume attenuator resistance value do you recommend for the ACP? There are attenuators that are made at 10k, 50k, 100k, 250k, 500k.I used a goldpoint and I like it.
https://www.goldpt.com/compare.html
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I watched your video "You Don't Hear Things the Way I Do (on DACs with PecanPi + PecanPi+ vs. SMSL VMV D2R) " and was reminded how I felt about PCM and DSD. Have you experimented with DSD format played through the SMSL D2R? Or do you not hear an improvement? Your pecanPi however converts dsd back to PCM before processing to analog (according to it's website) so I ask about the SMSL.
I watched your video "You Don't Hear Things the Way I Do (on DACs with PecanPi + PecanPi+ vs. SMSL VMV D2R) " and was reminded how I felt about PCM and DSD. Have you experimented with DSD format played through the SMSL D2R? Or do you not hear an improvement? Your pecanPi however converts dsd back to PCM before processing to analog (according to it's website) so I ask about the SMSL.
If I remember the alps was a 20k. I used a goldpoint 25k.
1.0 X V24-2-25K
Goldpoint Stereo V24 Stepped Attenuator, 25K
$165.00 USD
1.0 X V24-2-25K
Goldpoint Stereo V24 Stepped Attenuator, 25K
$165.00 USD
So what's weird is that DSD doesn't seem to work on my D2R despite it claiming that it does. When I try to send DSD to it, it still says "PCM" on the screen and when I tried to use the Colibri DAC DSD Test to only send DSD to it, I get no sound at all. I emailed SMSL about it and they claimed I was doing something wrong and then sent me to generic instructions for Windows. When I explained I was on a Mac they didn't respond. So the short answer is that I have not been able to try DSD on it. I did get DSD working on my Hiby DAP though and played a DSD recorded album put out by PS Audio and it sounded very good, but I'm not sure how to tell the DAP to convert the PCM audio files on the device into DSD (I could try looking again). Anyway, the short answer is that I've not been able to meaningfully compare DSD and PCM on my system.@ericrosenfield
I watched your video "You Don't Hear Things the Way I Do (on DACs with PecanPi + PecanPi+ vs. SMSL VMV D2R) " and was reminded how I felt about PCM and DSD. Have you experimented with DSD format played through the SMSL D2R? Or do you not hear an improvement? Your pecanPi however converts dsd back to PCM before processing to analog (according to it's website) so I ask about the SMSL.
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