How do you know which is a paper cone driver from just listening? Less treble?
Yes, this was quite a bit of work in the making and did indeed take a lot of time. The folks who provided me drivers to test also deserve much thanks, otherwise, I would have just continued playing with the TC9FD in a dozen different alignments 😀 - which as we found from the Round 1, isn't such a bad driver to keep playing with. 🙂
Yers!! I've just realised that I don't know which I was listening to as they are random from the selection. It wasn't less treble it was less harsh and smoother. On the jazz selections i chose the same driver and one other, on the voice it was the clear winner and the metal was so painful on all of them that my ears shouted out for mercy🙂
PS What we are used to may well make a difference. My wife just sat through it all and she voted for the same driver without having seen my choice.
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Seems I'm more in tune with the general consensus this time around. Or is it the other way around? 🙂
Really surprising how effective this type of test seems to be. While not definitive, it's certainly beyond "just for laughs". It gives a pretty good taste of the overall flavor of the drivers.
Really surprising how effective this type of test seems to be. While not definitive, it's certainly beyond "just for laughs". It gives a pretty good taste of the overall flavor of the drivers.
🙂 please vote and post a file with details.
It is hard for me to choose my preference because I don't like FR 🙂 Also, this is below the quality that I usually listen to 😀
I don't know whether I should prefer a driver that I can make a great speaker with (ScanSpeak), or the most natural and detailed, or the least fatiguing, or the best in performance to ratio...
But after a lot of thinking, I think I should prefer the one that I would love to listen to, with all it's limitation, and that is... Vifa TC9! 😉
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TC9FD was not in this round, unless you think I stuck it in as the "Mystery Driver"? But I wouldn't put a driver from Round 1 in as the mystery.
Seems I'm more in tune with the general consensus this time around. Or is it the other way around? 🙂
Really surprising how effective this type of test seems to be. While not definitive, it's certainly beyond "just for laughs". It gives a pretty good taste of the overall flavor of the drivers.
Glad you find this helpful for auditioning drivers. How many times have we wondered what various drivers sound like when compared to another driver we know? This thread was aimed at providing that sort of reference.
.....and the metal was so painful on all of them that my ears shouted out for mercy 🙂......
Agree that one and 5th element seems same camp notice some ala that direction, they would need EQ/DSP to be listenable on axis or they should be only listened off axis.
TC9FD was not in this round, unless you think I stuck it in as the "Mystery Driver"? But I wouldn't put a driver from Round 1 in as the mystery.
Then my ears were mistaken. It was with Logitech desktop computer speaker, but I was sure. Never mind, may be my ears were tired...😱
Logitech desktop computer speaker
The heavens must not be right if Jay subjects his ears to lowly Logitech PC speakers for a critical listening experience. 🙂
Jay,
If you were to hear Wesayso's full range system in person, you would have a different opinion of what a full range system can do. $500 in Vifa TC9FD drivers will blow the shorts off most multiway systems costing much much more in drivers. A single Be tweeter from SS will set you back $450.
Hat off to Wesayso for putting TC9 in parallel and improve it further using horn/waveguide. It is a beautiful midrange

It is hard for me to choose my preference because I don't like FR 🙂 Also, this is below the quality that I usually listen to 😀
I don't know whether I should prefer a driver that I can make a great speaker with (ScanSpeak), or the most natural and detailed, or the least fatiguing, or the best in performance to ratio...
But after a lot of thinking, I think I should prefer the one that I would love to listen to, with all it's limitation, and that is... Vifa TC9! 😉
Great thanks for voting instead of only adding subjective comments think voting is what xrk971 need as a pay back for all his work shared to be use full ond not just a one way benefit.
The only correct way to do this, is to use open back good quality headphones with no EQ.Then my ears were mistaken. It was with Logitech desktop computer speaker, but I was sure. Never mind, may be my ears were tired...😱
@ Squeek, not necessarily agreeing here, as long as you are familiar with what you listen with. I find it easier to listen trough my speakers.
True, but the (for most of us) unknown frequency response of a pair of headphones won't help either. At least for my speakers I know it's reasonably flat. Listening in near field might help. In my case that's somewhere in my living room 😉.
Come on people! just a few days left, the first run got 85 votes! It's quite a fun experience and it might even educate us a bit...
The first one also went 2 weeks. But looking at how many have downloaded the sound files, we should be getting more votes.
Wesayso's in room frequency response is DRC corrected and is perhaps the flattest (with a down tilt per BBC) in diyAudio land that I have seen. He essentially has a giant set of reference headphones anywhere in his room. 😀
Wesayso's in room frequency response is DRC corrected and is perhaps the flattest (with a down tilt per BBC) in diyAudio land that I have seen. He essentially has a giant set of reference headphones anywhere in his room. 😀
It was with Logitech desktop computer speaker, but I was sure.
If they're anything like the one's I have on my desk at work, critical listening isn't what they should be used for.😉
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If they're anything like the one's I have on my desk at work, critical listening isn't what they should be used for.😉
I think you are right 😎
My speaker at home is very good at HF. It will easily display any mistake in the recording or in the audio chain. And ALL these files we are listening to have too much HF energy. A cheap system (such as the Logitech speaker at work) will remove this HF issues...
The first one also went 2 weeks. But looking at how many have downloaded the sound files, we should be getting more votes.
X, can you see who is voting which? I believe administrators at least can.
I'm not voting based on my txt file. I'm voting based on objectively the BEST driver. And it is the ScanSpeak. Even if that clip is not a ScanSpeak, to me the clip is obviously the BEST driver.
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