hi DD
s/pdif signal from Studer A727 as a cd-drive is same...so it happens somewhere after input selector point on MB
thxs will do as suggested....
maybe this was the excuse to upgrade to next edition with GT regs and all
best
Leif
ok, that limits the search 🙂 indeed very weird case
I´ll be back
not the first time I´ve encountered unlikely idiotic mystery issues in this hobby
best
L
not the first time I´ve encountered unlikely idiotic mystery issues in this hobby
best
L
hi again
have run a tes cd from my nas via fifopi and into the dac
measured vac directly on both dac outputs between pin 2 and 3 on XLR simultaneously with 2 DMMs
the left is mostly stable at aound 2,34 vac
the right is about 2vac on 20Hz and rises slowly til it reaches same as left ch at about 80Hz
then RC rises to about 2,37vac
at 2 K the RC is back to 2,34vac
at 5K 2,29 vs 2,21/LC-RC
10K 2,12 vs 1,8
16K 1,82 vs 1,26
20K 1,57 vs 0,9
22K 1,44 vs 0,84
something is obviously not correct
best
Leif
have run a tes cd from my nas via fifopi and into the dac
measured vac directly on both dac outputs between pin 2 and 3 on XLR simultaneously with 2 DMMs
the left is mostly stable at aound 2,34 vac
the right is about 2vac on 20Hz and rises slowly til it reaches same as left ch at about 80Hz
then RC rises to about 2,37vac
at 2 K the RC is back to 2,34vac
at 5K 2,29 vs 2,21/LC-RC
10K 2,12 vs 1,8
16K 1,82 vs 1,26
20K 1,57 vs 0,9
22K 1,44 vs 0,84
something is obviously not correct
best
Leif
Is there anything connected to the outputs of your DDDAC (except the load resistors on the main board)?
If yes: disconnect and repeat the test
If no: repeat the test by measuring the POS and NEG outputs relative to GND.
I'd check the load resistors: poor solder point(s)? Resistor(s) broken?
If yes: disconnect and repeat the test
If no: repeat the test by measuring the POS and NEG outputs relative to GND.
I'd check the load resistors: poor solder point(s)? Resistor(s) broken?
hi
only DMMs
balanced cables have been swapped to rule out that
nothing else than load resistors which I just resoldered to be certain....AN 2 watt tants
don´t have any caps or output x-formers since I drive TVC direct
I´ll repeat test with DMMs on pos and neg to gnd..but tomorrow...now I´m fed up and listen to Keith Jarret Køln concert on my new Garrardzilla approach
Thxs so far
only DMMs
balanced cables have been swapped to rule out that
nothing else than load resistors which I just resoldered to be certain....AN 2 watt tants
don´t have any caps or output x-formers since I drive TVC direct
I´ll repeat test with DMMs on pos and neg to gnd..but tomorrow...now I´m fed up and listen to Keith Jarret Køln concert on my new Garrardzilla approach
Thxs so far
Hi Johan,
My setup is a single deck dddac (tent edition), stock dddac p/supp, Pass B1/Amp Camp, IMF TLS50 speakers (so no high end stuff) and experimented with different streamers.
- Rpi - Allo Isolator - higiberry digi plus.
Sounded okay for me and had it running for almost a year.
- Rpi - Isolator - Kali
Sounded better in my ears, more transparent, better overall soundstage
- Rpi - Ian fifopi with stock clocks
No better than the Isolator/Kali combi.
When I ordered the figopi I also did order the Accu Silicon clocks but didn’t installed them at first time to hear the difference between the Kali and the fifopi.
Installing the Accu Silicon clocks was a real step forward. Sounded in my setup so much better than the stock clocks. More detail, more transparency, better image. I can recommend the Silicon’s.
Never heard the Andrea Mori clocks but I can imagine this will be another great step forwards.
Very useful for my next upgrade! How did you power the Rpi? I assume you used your 5v doede Psu for the FiFoPi?
Is this transformer happy with the (small) DC imbalance between the DDDAC POS and NEG outputs?S&B TX102 I believe it´s called
It´s served me well since 2001...
hi
only DMMs
balanced cables have been swapped to rule out that
nothing else than load resistors which I just resoldered to be certain....AN 2 watt tants
don´t have any caps or output x-formers since I drive TVC direct
I´ll repeat test with DMMs on pos and neg to gnd..but tomorrow...now I´m fed up and listen to Keith Jarret Køln concert on my new Garrardzilla approach
Thxs so far
Hope the music will get you going again Leif ;-)
next step: make sure to have disconnected the transformers before you measure POS and NEG to common DC between POS and NEG. And of course with signals again between POS/Common and NEG/Common.... than you know if it is the TVC or the DAC. and if it is one side of the DAC (POS or NEG)
oh, are the DMM the same model? if not swap both to rule out any readings based on different RMS AC chips. Or just swap anyway to make 100% sure you are not reading differences because of the DMM - 100% deduction so to speak
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only DMMs directly on outputs
not same models..will swap pos /neg DMM next
swapped meters on pos neg leg and FLUKE is stable....Meterman is drifting more vs frequency
RCH...63 frequencies from 20Hz to 22K
both leg start at 1,18 and by
10 K it´s 1,04
16K it´s 0,9
22K its 0,7
LCH
identical......displayed difference Fluke and Meterman at 22 K: 0,7 vs 0,42vac!
all voltages from psu´s are dead on
12 to dac
5 to raspberry pi3
5 to reclocker
next suggestion?
not same models..will swap pos /neg DMM next
swapped meters on pos neg leg and FLUKE is stable....Meterman is drifting more vs frequency
RCH...63 frequencies from 20Hz to 22K
both leg start at 1,18 and by
10 K it´s 1,04
16K it´s 0,9
22K its 0,7
LCH
identical......displayed difference Fluke and Meterman at 22 K: 0,7 vs 0,42vac!
all voltages from psu´s are dead on
12 to dac
5 to raspberry pi3
5 to reclocker
next suggestion?
See post 7609... what is the DC imbalance of your DDDAC outputs? Is your transformer happy with this, or will it saturate?
Results look fine. Did the resoldering fix the issue?
I saw you edited ...
my psu´s are really beefy, so not too little current capacity....
I´m leaning towards faulty dac-chip...
maybe I´ll just buy a latest gen MB and boards and rebuild with Guido reg and all...
Yeah, but what about the DC coming out of your DDDAC (between POS and NEG outputs)? Some transformers will saturate quickly.The TVC works fine with Sequerra; Studer A727, Riaa,Studer A80s
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