crossing 2" Tad at 450Hz
I use JBL 2226Hs and TAD 4002s crossed at 450Hz. I have Bentwood 200Hz horns (large). This is the best sounding rig I have ever had. Amazing imaging, very tight percussion, astonishing, room-shaking bass.
I use Brutefir/DRC for crossover and room correction, and to flatten the frequency response. I have recently attached Viston TL-16s crossed at 13K, but I'm not sure they are necessary (still evaluating). It really sounds great as a 2-way without the tweeters. Of course, I can switch back and forth very easily with brutefir.
I use JBL 2226Hs and TAD 4002s crossed at 450Hz. I have Bentwood 200Hz horns (large). This is the best sounding rig I have ever had. Amazing imaging, very tight percussion, astonishing, room-shaking bass.
I use Brutefir/DRC for crossover and room correction, and to flatten the frequency response. I have recently attached Viston TL-16s crossed at 13K, but I'm not sure they are necessary (still evaluating). It really sounds great as a 2-way without the tweeters. Of course, I can switch back and forth very easily with brutefir.
Great, that's what I was thinking, I'm sure the JBL with a 2" compression will kick some ***, actualy that's what they do in their cinema speakers.
How did you tune them ? I did a 140L cab @ about 40hz. Reducing the volume should not be bad.
Thanks, Greg.
How did you tune them ? I did a 140L cab @ about 40hz. Reducing the volume should not be bad.
Thanks, Greg.
Re: crossing 2" Tad at 450Hz
pics?
garlandstephens said:I use JBL 2226Hs and TAD 4002s crossed at 450Hz. I have Bentwood 200Hz horns (large). This is the best sounding rig I have ever had. Amazing imaging, very tight percussion, astonishing, room-shaking bass.
I use Brutefir/DRC for crossover and room correction, and to flatten the frequency response. I have recently attached Viston TL-16s crossed at 13K, but I'm not sure they are necessary (still evaluating). It really sounds great as a 2-way without the tweeters. Of course, I can switch back and forth very easily with brutefir.
pics?
crossing 2" Tad at 450Hz
The JBLs are in 10 cubic foot sealed boxes, stuffed with fiberglass. They are made from 3/4" MDF. At some point, I want to make new boxes with more interior bracing and constrained-layer damping, but that will have to wait until I have a lot more time than I expect to have anytime soon.
I'll try and post some pics in the next day or two.
The JBLs are in 10 cubic foot sealed boxes, stuffed with fiberglass. They are made from 3/4" MDF. At some point, I want to make new boxes with more interior bracing and constrained-layer damping, but that will have to wait until I have a lot more time than I expect to have anytime soon.
I'll try and post some pics in the next day or two.
Re: PIC: JBL 2226H + TAD 4002 + Visaton TL-16
I like it!
have you more info about squawker horn?
garlandstephens said:They are bigger than this picture suggests - about 4 feet tall by 3 feet deep.
I like it!
have you more info about squawker horn?
Nice Job Stephens.
I just tried to xover the JBL @450hz, working well. I would just need to put some pading inside and I will also try to reduce the volume, they wouldn't play as low but they would be more confortable.
Same for my T90A, very nice tweeter.
I just don't know if I buy some 12" or if I wait...
I just tried to xover the JBL @450hz, working well. I would just need to put some pading inside and I will also try to reduce the volume, they wouldn't play as low but they would be more confortable.
Same for my T90A, very nice tweeter.
I just don't know if I buy some 12" or if I wait...
Re: Visaton TL-16 H
tnx for that,but nope 😉
I meant on mid horn
garlandstephens said:
tnx for that,but nope 😉
I meant on mid horn
more info about squawker horn
sorry, not sure what you meant by "squawker."
I bought mine used, but they are frequently listed new on ebay.
Here's the listing where I bought mine, with a lot of pictures:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130037253513
sorry, not sure what you meant by "squawker."
I bought mine used, but they are frequently listed new on ebay.
Here's the listing where I bought mine, with a lot of pictures:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130037253513
Hello guys !
I am looking for a 2" round to square adapter...
Does someone know where I can find this ?
Regards, Greg.
I am looking for a 2" round to square adapter...
Does someone know where I can find this ?
Regards, Greg.
Hello,
just to talk about some of the things I have been doing on the system for one year even if I was not often at home :
I got Mc Cauley 2" compression drivers
I loaded the JBL 2226H on a small 65L cabinet and compared to the 140L one : better mids, goes a little less low. Better and smaller.
I got JBL 2382 horns and I will start to build bigger horns.
Good support from McCauley, they are great ! I may consider using one of these kick *** mid speaker...
I also want to campare T90A vs 2405H
Amps are : Crown K2, Lab Gruppen Lab 300 *2
Filter : Ozone + Emu 1820M
Cutoffs : 7-800 ; 7000
just to talk about some of the things I have been doing on the system for one year even if I was not often at home :
I got Mc Cauley 2" compression drivers
I loaded the JBL 2226H on a small 65L cabinet and compared to the 140L one : better mids, goes a little less low. Better and smaller.
I got JBL 2382 horns and I will start to build bigger horns.
Good support from McCauley, they are great ! I may consider using one of these kick *** mid speaker...
I also want to campare T90A vs 2405H
Amps are : Crown K2, Lab Gruppen Lab 300 *2
Filter : Ozone + Emu 1820M
Cutoffs : 7-800 ; 7000
hi
i have used recently for a short time a 25" diameter round tractrix horn with a Radian 950pb , crossed at 300hz/12db, and it was AMAZING. Big, open, dinamic sound. Natural, no horn honk.
I don't believe distortion matters, since you listen only with a few watts.
Vincent Brient recomends the Radian to use even down to 220hz, with a bigger horn.
Treble beams a littlebit, a horntweeter helps to solve the problem.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12312992@N07/2364802312/
Angelo
i have used recently for a short time a 25" diameter round tractrix horn with a Radian 950pb , crossed at 300hz/12db, and it was AMAZING. Big, open, dinamic sound. Natural, no horn honk.
I don't believe distortion matters, since you listen only with a few watts.
Vincent Brient recomends the Radian to use even down to 220hz, with a bigger horn.
Treble beams a littlebit, a horntweeter helps to solve the problem.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12312992@N07/2364802312/
Angelo
Yes you're right !
This is why I want to try a bigger horn... Then I'll do some measures...
Greg.
This is why I want to try a bigger horn... Then I'll do some measures...
Greg.
316a said:Hi, Sorry I'm late . What's wrong with Tad ? I got my TD4001 second hand for £450 the pair . You can pick up units with blown diaphragms much cheaper and reload with Radian replacements for around the same cost .
A TAD without the diaphragm... hmm, what exactly is it that makes a TAD desirable without the diaphragm? IIRC they have old-tech alnico magnets that force the use of a long, high-distortion throat. Any (highly debatable) benefits of the magnet material would undoubtedly vanish compared to the throat problem.
Eighteensound ND 2060A
This is an excellent sounding driver. Have tried lots of various B&C, Beyma, RCF and P-Audio, but this one beats them all. I am using it in a 30 cm dia tractrix horn and listen to it just slightly off axis. Very transparent, excellent detail, smoothness and quite mellow tone compared to typical harsh titanium PA drivers. Here are some graphs:
This is an excellent sounding driver. Have tried lots of various B&C, Beyma, RCF and P-Audio, but this one beats them all. I am using it in a 30 cm dia tractrix horn and listen to it just slightly off axis. Very transparent, excellent detail, smoothness and quite mellow tone compared to typical harsh titanium PA drivers. Here are some graphs:



interesting to know
hi
have you compared to Radian , or any vintage driver ? how much do these cost ? i might try them out...
Angelo
hi
have you compared to Radian , or any vintage driver ? how much do these cost ? i might try them out...
Angelo
Re: Eighteensound ND 2060A
very nice to 10k
fivestring said:This is an excellent sounding driver. ..... Here are some graphs:
very nice to 10k
Re: Re: Eighteensound ND 2060A
If you listen to it slightly off axis, it sounds very open, no need to cross it over to
a dedicated tweeter. Have done that but it sounds more coherent alone.
Have not compared to Radian, but this is actually 1.4" driver with 2" adapter, same as ND1460A. I am not interested in vintage drivers, sorry. The price in Germany is about 340 Eu.angeloitacare said:hi
have you compared to Radian , or any vintage driver ? how much do these cost ? i might try them out...
Angelo
tnargs said:
very nice to 10k
If you listen to it slightly off axis, it sounds very open, no need to cross it over to
a dedicated tweeter. Have done that but it sounds more coherent alone.
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fivestring,
Do you happen to have any photos of the phase plug without the 2" adaptor? (Even with the adaptor might be helpful.)
Thanks,
Paul
Do you happen to have any photos of the phase plug without the 2" adaptor? (Even with the adaptor might be helpful.)
Thanks,
Paul
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