Does this "laptop" controller and LCD display 24bit true color? Or is it laptop 256 color quality?
Its not a "laptop" controller...its actually an LCD Controller used by many big companies like Eizo, Samsung, and Winstron in their large LCD TV's.
No it is not true color, its got 256k. If you can tell the difference, I would recommend buying a 17" SGI 1600SW from Cruser for $500.
No it is not true color, its got 256k. If you can tell the difference, I would recommend buying a 17" SGI 1600SW from Cruser for $500.
The only non-apple, non-cad card that will output the dual-link DVI-I currently (early 2005):
http://www.matrox.com/mga/workstation/3dws/products/parhelia/dl256pci.cfm
http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/masterid=6550606/search=Matrox
Not cheap, but it works on a standard pci slot (could pair-up for multiple displays..). Additionally, Matrox has always had better quality 2d output than any other manufacturer. 3d output may be a bit light in comparison to todays champions (Nividia 6800 ultra and ATI X850 XT).
http://www.matrox.com/mga/workstation/3dws/products/parhelia/dl256pci.cfm
http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/masterid=6550606/search=Matrox
Not cheap, but it works on a standard pci slot (could pair-up for multiple displays..). Additionally, Matrox has always had better quality 2d output than any other manufacturer. 3d output may be a bit light in comparison to todays champions (Nividia 6800 ultra and ATI X850 XT).
With the search into dual-link DVI-I cards, I wonder if the Nividia Apple version could be used on a PC based system (that had at least one PCI-X slot)?
Nice find!
Looks like these use these for shooting movies ($$$)
I also noticed it never lists the response time, contrast ratio, or ACTUAL resolution. It may take a 1080 signal but that does not mean it can display it natively. They say their little 6" is HDTV so I doubt its native on any of them.
My guess on the price of it....5 grand! Anyone want to find out?
Looks like these use these for shooting movies ($$$)
I also noticed it never lists the response time, contrast ratio, or ACTUAL resolution. It may take a 1080 signal but that does not mean it can display it natively. They say their little 6" is HDTV so I doubt its native on any of them.
My guess on the price of it....5 grand! Anyone want to find out?
Re: CHECK THIS OUT!!!
Nice... if only they replace "support" with "DISPLAY".
When people will learn to look at native resolution instead of "supported resolution
Nice... if only they replace "support" with "DISPLAY".
When people will learn to look at native resolution instead of "supported resolution 211N said:
I am still very interested in how this is going to work out Minoten.
I have another question. Will the controller be able to display a native 1080x1920 resolution on the 1200x1920? That is to say will the controller be able to have an option to automatically have 60 lines on the bottom and 60 lines on the top turned off while the 1080 lines in the middle are used. Or will the controller scale the 1080 lines into 1200 automatically? If it scalesup automatically, have you asked the company that supplies the control board if it is possible to manipulate the bios to support the blanking option? It might be worth while checking out...in fact it would be the be all and end all of lcd projection units.
I have another question. Will the controller be able to display a native 1080x1920 resolution on the 1200x1920? That is to say will the controller be able to have an option to automatically have 60 lines on the bottom and 60 lines on the top turned off while the 1080 lines in the middle are used. Or will the controller scale the 1080 lines into 1200 automatically? If it scalesup automatically, have you asked the company that supplies the control board if it is possible to manipulate the bios to support the blanking option? It might be worth while checking out...in fact it would be the be all and end all of lcd projection units.
The controller has several scaling options, I talked about them on my website...
Scaling(1:1,Fill,Aspect,Paner)
4 scaling options, with a 1:1 like you discussed.
The board supports up to WUXGA using reduced blanking. Because the DVI-D port is a single-link (as most video cards are) it must take advantage of reduced blanking in order to achieve 1920x1200@60hz.
Test kit ships to me next week, we'll see how it all works out
Scaling(1:1,Fill,Aspect,Paner)
4 scaling options, with a 1:1 like you discussed.
The board supports up to WUXGA using reduced blanking. Because the DVI-D port is a single-link (as most video cards are) it must take advantage of reduced blanking in order to achieve 1920x1200@60hz.
Test kit ships to me next week, we'll see how it all works out
I think if everything works out for you that I will get one this summer. I didnt notice a real price for the whole kit. Do you have a price in mind?
An exact price cannot be put on it right now, I need to calculate the shipping and import fees of the kits. My guesstimate is around $700.
Remember it is in a group buy form, and the minimum order is 10, so if you plan on buying it in the summer just keep that in mind.
I may buy a few extra kits just for this reason but they wouldnt be sold for the same price as the group buy kits.
Remember it is in a group buy form, and the minimum order is 10, so if you plan on buying it in the summer just keep that in mind.
I may buy a few extra kits just for this reason but they wouldnt be sold for the same price as the group buy kits.
kogi l4ax ffc extension woes
for tjh mostly. This is my first post so apologies to all if this is not the proper protocol.
With your help I might get past an issue I have with my LCD panel.
I successfully stripped and have been using the Kogi L4AX monitor on a overhead projector for about six weeks but have gotten tired of the limitation the t-shaped ffc connector on the horiz and vertical circuit boards attached to the panel does to the display by making the viewable area smaller. I have work-arounds with a TV-out on my video card but would like to use the full screen.
I essentially duplicated the ffc extension just as you showed in a series of images posted in January.
My problem is once the ffc extension is added, the screen goes blank - it's as if the extension is not connected. Did you need to change monitor settings, reboot or use any other method to make the extension function? I reconnected the OEM connection and the display returned to normal without adjusting anything.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
for tjh mostly. This is my first post so apologies to all if this is not the proper protocol.
With your help I might get past an issue I have with my LCD panel.
I successfully stripped and have been using the Kogi L4AX monitor on a overhead projector for about six weeks but have gotten tired of the limitation the t-shaped ffc connector on the horiz and vertical circuit boards attached to the panel does to the display by making the viewable area smaller. I have work-arounds with a TV-out on my video card but would like to use the full screen.
I essentially duplicated the ffc extension just as you showed in a series of images posted in January.
My problem is once the ffc extension is added, the screen goes blank - it's as if the extension is not connected. Did you need to change monitor settings, reboot or use any other method to make the extension function? I reconnected the OEM connection and the display returned to normal without adjusting anything.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Those pictures look extremely impressive Minoten. Could you tell me which number pictures were actually using a 1020i input and 720p input just so I can compare?
Great work, we all appreciate your working out the bugs for us. This is a huge step for all DIY fans.
Great work, we all appreciate your working out the bugs for us. This is a huge step for all DIY fans.
Sorry for the delay in my response, Ive been busy setting up my projector and hopping around the messageboards and emails.
I will try to explain the images.
Pictures 18-24
Regular TV from satellite...scaned to WUXGA...one shot is 1:1 ratio, shows you the actual size of the inputed image.
Picture 25
WUXGA Desktop Shot (Did not have the picture stretched out to fill the 15.4" though, needed to reboot machine for it to put picture in) with PiP in the upper right corner...source was from satellite TV (regular tv)
Pictures 26-32
1080i Shots I downloaded
Picture 35
WUXGA Desktop
Picture 36
WUXGA desktop "Picture by Picture" Regular TV Source (Satellite)
Picture 37-38
WUXGA Desktop, REgular TV source in PiP...then swapped for 38
Picture 39-41
Demonstrating the picture flip capabilities
Picture 48-54
Video were being fed from the component output of a cheap DVD player...so 480p scaled to WUXGA. (one of the shots shows the true 1:1 ratio of the actual resolution)
Picture 59
1080i
Kit price will be $715...need to check my numbers buit it looks like thats the price...plus the shipping from me (Arizona) to you, shouldnt be much.
Heres a picture I took of my projected image (102" diag)...I took this while holding the camera, so the picture may be a bit blurry...but you should be able to see ALL the detail still.
WUXGA 102" Test Shot
I will try to explain the images.
Pictures 18-24
Regular TV from satellite...scaned to WUXGA...one shot is 1:1 ratio, shows you the actual size of the inputed image.
Picture 25
WUXGA Desktop Shot (Did not have the picture stretched out to fill the 15.4" though, needed to reboot machine for it to put picture in) with PiP in the upper right corner...source was from satellite TV (regular tv)
Pictures 26-32
1080i Shots I downloaded
Picture 35
WUXGA Desktop
Picture 36
WUXGA desktop "Picture by Picture" Regular TV Source (Satellite)
Picture 37-38
WUXGA Desktop, REgular TV source in PiP...then swapped for 38
Picture 39-41
Demonstrating the picture flip capabilities
Picture 48-54
Video were being fed from the component output of a cheap DVD player...so 480p scaled to WUXGA. (one of the shots shows the true 1:1 ratio of the actual resolution)
Picture 59
1080i
Kit price will be $715...need to check my numbers buit it looks like thats the price...plus the shipping from me (Arizona) to you, shouldnt be much.
Heres a picture I took of my projected image (102" diag)...I took this while holding the camera, so the picture may be a bit blurry...but you should be able to see ALL the detail still.
WUXGA 102" Test Shot
Any updates on the European distribution?
http://www.hdtvprojector.ch.vu lists a 9999.00 EUR price 🙂
http://www.hdtvprojector.ch.vu lists a 9999.00 EUR price 🙂
Gadaffy is in charge of Euro distribution, send him an email if you have any questions.
UPDATE
WUXGA Kit group buy has started taking orders.
Go to http://members.cox.net/minoten and click on "join" to order.
No more orders will be accepted after May 20th.
UPDATE
WUXGA Kit group buy has started taking orders.
Go to http://members.cox.net/minoten and click on "join" to order.
No more orders will be accepted after May 20th.
Prices 😱 
Still for the large increase in quality, it possibly could be worth it yet it dosent change the fact that we are still dealing with large LCD screens, which means the edges still dont have the same amount as light.
But still I wouldnt mind one, if the price was say £200 GBP then I would possibly consider it but at the price it is :| I dont think its worth it IMO
And I want results 😀
Still for the large increase in quality, it possibly could be worth it yet it dosent change the fact that we are still dealing with large LCD screens, which means the edges still dont have the same amount as light.
But still I wouldnt mind one, if the price was say £200 GBP then I would possibly consider it but at the price it is :| I dont think its worth it IMO
And I want results 😀
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