Hi X, stuffing in progress. Even though I've read everything, a question remains. You wrote we need stuffing in the size of two Nr.5 soccer balls - is that per speaker or both speaker together? How critical is the even density, should the stuffing be squeezed like in Frugal Horn or is it enough to place it just losely? Thanks in advance.
Many thanks, Meanie! 
@X, I could not wait and listened to the speaker in mono... since one hour... this is an incredible speaker, I am almost speechless.
I have Sonus Faber's, but the MLTL outperforms it easily. The midrange is beautiful, open, live-like, exactly how I like it, and most importantly this range is not nervous or harsh and not tiring. The lows are deep and punchy but not overemphasized, with great rhythm and never-heard detail.
Many thanks for providing the plans and the know-how!
Ps: As you wrote, the ACA - even in 15w bridged config - can't handle the speaker. So I used my good old Copland CSA-28 for the first run.
@X, I could not wait and listened to the speaker in mono... since one hour... this is an incredible speaker, I am almost speechless.
I have Sonus Faber's, but the MLTL outperforms it easily. The midrange is beautiful, open, live-like, exactly how I like it, and most importantly this range is not nervous or harsh and not tiring. The lows are deep and punchy but not overemphasized, with great rhythm and never-heard detail.
Many thanks for providing the plans and the know-how!
Ps: As you wrote, the ACA - even in 15w bridged config - can't handle the speaker. So I used my good old Copland CSA-28 for the first run.
Hi Istvan,
Glad you got first sound and like what you hear. What model SF’s do you have? I think I see them in the background (white cabinet). These are tapered TL’s not mass loaded TLs. The articulate bass you hear is a tapered TL signature. It also opens up the clarity of the midrange. Great work!
Glad you got first sound and like what you hear. What model SF’s do you have? I think I see them in the background (white cabinet). These are tapered TL’s not mass loaded TLs. The articulate bass you hear is a tapered TL signature. It also opens up the clarity of the midrange. Great work!
Hi X,
thank you very much these are only my second diy speakers, so I am satisfied
I have Venere 2,5's and they are not even closely so good as the MLTL.
Here I am slightly confused: "The articulate bass you hear is a tapered TL signature" - you mean mass loaded TL signature? Because I hear it from the MLTL's, not from the tapered Sonus.
Anyway, the second speaker is glued and about to dry (did I mention that I don't have enough clamps?) and I can hardly wait to hear in stereo.
Thanks again now it's time for a power amp... or two, f.e. LuFo and Babelfish
thank you very much
these are only my second diy speakers, so I am satisfied I have Venere 2,5's and they are not even closely so good as the MLTL.
Here I am slightly confused: "The articulate bass you hear is a tapered TL signature" - you mean mass loaded TL signature? Because I hear it from the MLTL's, not from the tapered Sonus.
Anyway, the second speaker is glued and about to dry (did I mention that I don't have enough clamps?
) and I can hardly wait to hear in stereo.Thanks again
now it's time for a power amp... or two, f.e. LuFo and Babelfish
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Typically MLTL speakers have a smaller sudden contraction for the vent. Like a long rectangular channel with a smaller vent. An example is Tabaq speaker. Often the vent looks closer to smaller on on a bass reflex. On a tapered channel TL, the channel cross section gradually gets smaller and has a rather large cross sectional area for the vent.
Is your Sonus Faber a TL?
Is your Sonus Faber a TL?
Finished Placed in the my listening environment I noticed some lack of the lows so I started to tune the speaker. My original stuffing was 112 g per speaker (about 3,95 oz), now I have 83 g (2,93 oz) and it is much better, but I still have to play with it. But it's fun
On top are the external xo's.
Placed in the my listening environment I noticed some lack of the lows so I started to tune the speaker. My original stuffing was 112 g per speaker (about 3,95 oz), now I have 83 g (2,93 oz) and it is much better, but I still have to play with it. But it's fun On top are the external xo's.
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Sorry for writing that much about the speaker, but the sound is simply gorgeous I have listened to many expensive speaker but this speaker is really outstanding. If somebody would tell me they cost 8000 euros, I would believe it. That's it
Forgot to mention, in the cone I ended up with 8 g stuffing (about 0,28 oz).
I have listened to many expensive speaker but this speaker is really outstanding. If somebody would tell me they cost 8000 euros, I would believe it. That's it Forgot to mention, in the cone I ended up with 8 g stuffing (about 0,28 oz).
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On top are the external xo's.
So you are tuning your speakers while watching an episode of Star Trek: TNG? Cool!
CoolHopefully this batch of newly built TL’s by you, Meanie and X will nudge me enough to finally build mine
and winter is coming, so we are waiting GuiltySo you are tuning your speakers while watching an episode of Star Trek: TNG? Cool!
Many thanks Zia! I can't stop listening and I am rediscovering my musicIstvan,
Congratulations on getting your stereo build done!
Nice setup you got there. Enjoy!
Thank you, Cindra!
The FH MkIII's are in my opinion special speaker for not too big soundmasses and they require special placement. In my case, they are a bit harsh in the higher midrange. I use the MA A7MS, maybe it would be better (for me) to use a paper cone and I plan to do so.
The TL's are just great, they easily outperform many many high-price commercial speaker. The mids are very open, clear, smooth and detailed, live-like, the stage is wide and deep and high.
The FH MkIII's are in my opinion special speaker for not too big soundmasses and they require special placement. In my case, they are a bit harsh in the higher midrange. I use the MA A7MS, maybe it would be better (for me) to use a paper cone and I plan to do so.
The TL's are just great, they easily outperform many many high-price commercial speaker. The mids are very open, clear, smooth and detailed, live-like, the stage is wide and deep and high.