Hi X, stuffing in progress. Even though I've read everything, a question remains. You wrote we need stuffing in the size of two Nr.5 soccer balls - is that per speaker or both speaker together? How critical is the even density, should the stuffing be squeezed like in Frugal Horn or is it enough to place it just losely? Thanks in advance.
Many thanks, Meanie! 🙂
@X, I could not wait and listened to the speaker in mono... since one hour... this is an incredible speaker, I am almost speechless.
I have Sonus Faber's, but the MLTL outperforms it easily. The midrange is beautiful, open, live-like, exactly how I like it, and most importantly this range is not nervous or harsh and not tiring. The lows are deep and punchy but not overemphasized, with great rhythm and never-heard detail.
Many thanks for providing the plans and the know-how!
Ps: As you wrote, the ACA - even in 15w bridged config - can't handle the speaker. So I used my good old Copland CSA-28 for the first run.
@X, I could not wait and listened to the speaker in mono... since one hour... this is an incredible speaker, I am almost speechless.
I have Sonus Faber's, but the MLTL outperforms it easily. The midrange is beautiful, open, live-like, exactly how I like it, and most importantly this range is not nervous or harsh and not tiring. The lows are deep and punchy but not overemphasized, with great rhythm and never-heard detail.
Many thanks for providing the plans and the know-how!
Ps: As you wrote, the ACA - even in 15w bridged config - can't handle the speaker. So I used my good old Copland CSA-28 for the first run.
Hi Istvan,
Glad you got first sound and like what you hear. What model SF’s do you have? I think I see them in the background (white cabinet). These are tapered TL’s not mass loaded TLs. The articulate bass you hear is a tapered TL signature. It also opens up the clarity of the midrange. Great work!
Glad you got first sound and like what you hear. What model SF’s do you have? I think I see them in the background (white cabinet). These are tapered TL’s not mass loaded TLs. The articulate bass you hear is a tapered TL signature. It also opens up the clarity of the midrange. Great work!
Hi X,
thank you very much🙂 these are only my second diy speakers, so I am satisfied 😀
I have Venere 2,5's and they are not even closely so good as the MLTL.
Here I am slightly confused: "The articulate bass you hear is a tapered TL signature" - you mean mass loaded TL signature? Because I hear it from the MLTL's, not from the tapered Sonus.
Anyway, the second speaker is glued and about to dry (did I mention that I don't have enough clamps?😀) and I can hardly wait to hear in stereo.
Thanks again now it's time for a power amp... or two, f.e. LuFo and Babelfish 😀
thank you very much🙂 these are only my second diy speakers, so I am satisfied 😀
I have Venere 2,5's and they are not even closely so good as the MLTL.
Here I am slightly confused: "The articulate bass you hear is a tapered TL signature" - you mean mass loaded TL signature? Because I hear it from the MLTL's, not from the tapered Sonus.
Anyway, the second speaker is glued and about to dry (did I mention that I don't have enough clamps?😀) and I can hardly wait to hear in stereo.
Thanks again
now it's time for a power amp... or two, f.e. LuFo and Babelfish 😀
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Oh... X, now I understand... this speakers are tapered ML - I thought from the first second on these are MLTL, but why? 😕 So now I understand your remark... 😀
Typically MLTL speakers have a smaller sudden contraction for the vent. Like a long rectangular channel with a smaller vent. An example is Tabaq speaker. Often the vent looks closer to smaller on on a bass reflex. On a tapered channel TL, the channel cross section gradually gets smaller and has a rather large cross sectional area for the vent.
Is your Sonus Faber a TL?
Is your Sonus Faber a TL?
Finished 🙂 Placed in the my listening environment I noticed some lack of the lows so I started to tune the speaker. My original stuffing was 112 g per speaker (about 3,95 oz), now I have 83 g (2,93 oz) and it is much better, but I still have to play with it. But it's fun 🙂
On top are the external xo's.
On top are the external xo's.
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Sorry for writing that much about the speaker, but the sound is simply gorgeous😀 I have listened to many expensive speaker but this speaker is really outstanding. If somebody would tell me they cost 8000 euros, I would believe it. That's it 😀
Forgot to mention, in the cone I ended up with 8 g stuffing (about 0,28 oz).
Forgot to mention, in the cone I ended up with 8 g stuffing (about 0,28 oz).
Fantastic Istvan!!
Your wall of audio gear is quite a nice sight 😉
If you feel the need for more bass, reduce the amount of stuffing behind and over the top turn of the RS225. That section looked a bit over packed with stuffing from your picture.
Enjoy your fresh set of FAST TL’s!!
Your wall of audio gear is quite a nice sight 😉
If you feel the need for more bass, reduce the amount of stuffing behind and over the top turn of the RS225. That section looked a bit over packed with stuffing from your picture.
Enjoy your fresh set of FAST TL’s!!
Many thanks Vunce I am really excited.
Yes, this is exactly the area where I have reduced the stuffing 🙂
And now it's time for your TL's😉
I am really excited. Yes, this is exactly the area where I have reduced the stuffing 🙂
And now it's time for your TL's😉
Hopefully this batch of newly built TL’s by you, Meanie and X will nudge me enough to finally build mine 😉
Istvan,
Congratulations on getting your stereo build done!
Nice setup you got there. Enjoy! 🙂
Congratulations on getting your stereo build done!
Nice setup you got there. Enjoy! 🙂
Cool 😀 and winter is coming, so we are waiting
Guilty 😀
Many thanks Zia! I can't stop listening and I am rediscovering my music 🙂
Nice build Istvan. How they compare vs Frugal horns? Probably more bass but what about mids and highs?
Thank you, Cindra! 🙂
The FH MkIII's are in my opinion special speaker for not too big soundmasses and they require special placement. In my case, they are a bit harsh in the higher midrange. I use the MA A7MS, maybe it would be better (for me) to use a paper cone and I plan to do so.
The TL's are just great, they easily outperform many many high-price commercial speaker. The mids are very open, clear, smooth and detailed, live-like, the stage is wide and deep and high.
The FH MkIII's are in my opinion special speaker for not too big soundmasses and they require special placement. In my case, they are a bit harsh in the higher midrange. I use the MA A7MS, maybe it would be better (for me) to use a paper cone and I plan to do so.
The TL's are just great, they easily outperform many many high-price commercial speaker. The mids are very open, clear, smooth and detailed, live-like, the stage is wide and deep and high.