It gives purpose to millions and as such is useful.
Its too bad that they always feel the need to kill those that think otherwise.
Or am I going too political here?
Jan
Its too bad that they always feel the need to kill those that think otherwise.
Or am I going too political here?
Jan
Seems we are ticking the wrong boxes here. There will be no meaning of life if religion and politics drift in! 🙂
It's a question of practicality. Can this superficial construct aid you? Certainly if you live in an unsafe and unstable environment it can help you maintain your sanity. For many of us here, we have achieved a level of external stability and safety in our lives, we don't have that need for a relationship which comes with lots of baggage. What of safety internally? Are we free of unwanted disturbing thoughts? Fear, desire, dislike. The divine is free from all of that, it is essentially a conscious state of absolute tranquility. If you can create a relationship with it, you can take on that quality, which is already there within you, only clouded. A relationship with the divine is essentially a superficial means to get to know yourself. It is not the only means, the alternative was always more difficult. More so now with objects of pleasure and dislike that are immensely more engaging and accessible, we are more easily bound. As to why not just live your life without such nonsense, maximize the good, minimize the bad? I think here is where our baggage of a supposed afterlife where we go as our perfect young selves has inhibited us. Certainly that is not waiting for us when we pass, can we be certain of what is? Seek peace, it's not a fiction, how you get there is up to you.
Yes, the 'divine' is a convenient construct to give you the illusion of meaning and purpose.
Jan
Jan
I think modern religions, and science too, have lost the ability to teach someone how to connect to the silence within us all, (excluding NPC's of course.... lol )
Sports people touch on it when they talk of the flow state.
So just because religion or science can't (currently) teach us the most important thing that they should teach us, does not mean we're screwed, even AI might figure it out for us, and it does not mean the Devine does not exist, lack of proof that something exists is not proof that it doesn't exist.
For me it's not theory or belief, it's experienced, maybe not slap in the face, night and day type of experience, but it's there, so I carry on, deepening it as best as I can.
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Sports people touch on it when they talk of the flow state.
So just because religion or science can't (currently) teach us the most important thing that they should teach us, does not mean we're screwed, even AI might figure it out for us, and it does not mean the Devine does not exist, lack of proof that something exists is not proof that it doesn't exist.
For me it's not theory or belief, it's experienced, maybe not slap in the face, night and day type of experience, but it's there, so I carry on, deepening it as best as I can.
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I think one should take one day by day
and give this day a special meaning.
Today I give this day a purpose to forfill.
Thinking of the long run has no real meaning.
and give this day a special meaning.
Today I give this day a purpose to forfill.
Thinking of the long run has no real meaning.
This thread, as any other, does show what kind of people we are by the way we communicate
with each other. Being uncivil, will not make you any healthier, on the contrary.
with each other. Being uncivil, will not make you any healthier, on the contrary.
To me, someone saying to be a Christian, or not , for that matter, bears little meaning.
I'll wait to get to know the person a little better and see if I can make something out
of the information I might gather through a longer period of time.
Having a certificate of baptism does not constitute a Christian. What does is a certain kind
of behaviour and then there is this thing that people can change their mind and start acting
differently.
Nothing is as simple as the superficial world would like us to believe.
Would I have the power of the Devine? if so I'd make it so no one would be found guilty of a crime they did not commit, no one would be found innocent of a crime they did commit.
I would like to rid the world of war, death and disease, however it would take a long time to work out the repercussions of such profound changes.
I think there was a doctor who episode, where people stopped dying, at first is was seen as a good thing, but then it started to cause problems.
I really don't know why, but I was reminded of a dialogue from the movie Sneakers (1992) in which at the end a high government official with full powers asks the team of experts who managed to find a certain black box that would have threatened the human race what each of them wants because he would have granted it.
So there are those who ask for a super-accessorized, very expensive camper, those who ask for "peace on earth for men of good will", those who ask to be rehabilitated with a clean criminal record, those who ask for the phone number of a cute agent there and then they ask the only girl on the team what she wanted, and she, absentmindedly, answers: "What do I want? Oh, I'm fine the way I am".
Of course, each of us will interpret it in a way, but I believe there is a common sense in everything and everyone.
So there are those who ask for a super-accessorized, very expensive camper, those who ask for "peace on earth for men of good will", those who ask to be rehabilitated with a clean criminal record, those who ask for the phone number of a cute agent there and then they ask the only girl on the team what she wanted, and she, absentmindedly, answers: "What do I want? Oh, I'm fine the way I am".
Of course, each of us will interpret it in a way, but I believe there is a common sense in everything and everyone.
Can I remind everyone of rule 2: Discussions of politics, ethnicity, religion, medical or other divisive issues of any sort.
A humorous Monty Python style is preferred. 🙂
