I guess evolution and natural selection led to "giant dinosaur" Chinese companies, making everything for everybody, under different brands.
Here's one which makes all electric coffee makers, grills and pressing irons.
I spotted supposedly European Philips and Oster brands among others.
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Well, I was overbid on the Gemini. In fact, sniped off at the last second - normally I would do it myself but since this was my first time using the system, I placed the bet early. But I would have been overbid anyway.
We'll see what else comes up. I kinda like this game.
I looked at the bid history and wondered if you'd won. There was a single JBL powered speaker with SPDIF and AES inputs, plus network, USB that went unchallenged at the opening bid of $25. So sometimes that happens.
I was looking at that, but 1) couldnt find ANY info on the particular model anywhere on the web and 2) I couldnt wedge it into any use case I could imagine, even to re-sell on epay. So I just let it go... Hope whomever bought it turns it into a nice streaming endpoint on their home network - and feels $50 well spent (as shipping adds to the TCO)
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There's also https://churchgear.com/product-category/pro-audio/?_search_results_search=speaker&_sort=_price_asc
They dont have quite the same shipping discount as SGW, which...I dont know how they do it. They also want real money for a lot of their stuff, but I imagine things turn up from time to time. Their 15" JBL needs to be fixed; could be the driver, could be the amp, could be a fuse inside; $75 to ship it though. At least you can just buy it and know it's yours.
Cracks me up they do a spectral measurement to show a speaker is working correctly. I've done that, in certain epay listings of mine...
Edit - I see they're also on epay with the same listings.
They dont have quite the same shipping discount as SGW, which...I dont know how they do it. They also want real money for a lot of their stuff, but I imagine things turn up from time to time. Their 15" JBL needs to be fixed; could be the driver, could be the amp, could be a fuse inside; $75 to ship it though. At least you can just buy it and know it's yours.
Cracks me up they do a spectral measurement to show a speaker is working correctly. I've done that, in certain epay listings of mine...
Edit - I see they're also on epay with the same listings.
Lots of used stuff usually on market place.
Up north as we called it both Oregon and Washington
use to have lots good music stores with used gear.
Would guess its maybe changed a little.
For home monitoring in mixing just used the hifi speakers.
Guitar was all software plugins, so just used various cabinet sims.
or often just turned them off, depends.
Up north as we called it both Oregon and Washington
use to have lots good music stores with used gear.
Would guess its maybe changed a little.
For home monitoring in mixing just used the hifi speakers.
Guitar was all software plugins, so just used various cabinet sims.
or often just turned them off, depends.
There's a "Harbinger" 15" sitting at 9.99 on SGW with 2 days to go. Actually has a review on "Ultimate Guitar" by someone using it for bass and guitar. Unbelievably, they're even selling replacement diaphragms for the tweeter on ebay. Didnt see that for any other the others, even JBL!!
Downside is they want $65 to ship and of course "unable to test" even though shown with an AC cord. Sometimes you have to wonder; it doesnt take much to simply plug it in, see if the green light comes on... That they did test it, saw nothing, so "we'll just say" unable to test, so we can get rid of it.
Downside is they want $65 to ship and of course "unable to test" even though shown with an AC cord. Sometimes you have to wonder; it doesnt take much to simply plug it in, see if the green light comes on... That they did test it, saw nothing, so "we'll just say" unable to test, so we can get rid of it.
Two instrument amps will sound best and play best, but if you have your heart set on a PA speaker, I would suggest to go to a music store like a guitar center, take you instruments and play them though a PA speaker. It will sorta work, but its not going be optimal if compared with two separate instrument amps as previously suggested to you. Again, its not just about being able to play, its also about finding motivation to practice. If the sound isn't there, then getting the motivation is that much harder in the longer term.
Of course. I think he's looking for a sorta "produced" sound - vocal, guitar, bass, effects - all coming from his mixer board. As if it were a recording, but happens to be live.
I had my best sound for practice so many years ago using a board, compression on its main outs, ambient effects on the vocals, drums in a separate room mic'd and mixed, two guitars and bass all direct (with stomp pedals) and mixed. Each of us monitoring using over-ear headphones.
We (I) couldnt stand it any other way - so fatiguing. That actually sounded nice, was a pleasant experience to listen to - instead of volume wars between the guitarists and how many rim-shots and crashes in your face can you stand in an evening?
IME going for that produced sound before you even start learning how to play in time tends to be a mistake. You can't fix it in the mix. You have develop the skill to play first. In the long run that's the easier and more successful way. It means practicing with a metronome and paying your dues. Maybe a year later you will be ready to record something simple. Maybe.
OTOH trying to jump ahead to making the sounds in your head into sounds in a recording is doomed, unless maybe you go to Nashville or somewhere and hire session players to do the playing. By doomed, I mean it will sound sloppy and amateurish. Your family and friends will say nice things, but mostly they won't listen through a whole song more than one time because its so bad.
OTOH trying to jump ahead to making the sounds in your head into sounds in a recording is doomed, unless maybe you go to Nashville or somewhere and hire session players to do the playing. By doomed, I mean it will sound sloppy and amateurish. Your family and friends will say nice things, but mostly they won't listen through a whole song more than one time because its so bad.
With an auctioneer type 15" PA? Maybe for making percussive body smacking and string jangling sounds using a bass guitar but for actual basslines? Can work if resolution and authority is not required. What I am failing to see is how does Crocobar arrive at this as a real option given his physicist background?
We can teach Crocobar everything he needs to know, and there is lot to know before you're ready to play, record, mix, master, and produce. But you can't get there if you try to take shortcuts instead of properly starting at the beginning.
How many garage bands have made the same mistake? Guitar Center, etc., make a lot of their money off of people hopelessly unprepared.
How many garage bands have made the same mistake? Guitar Center, etc., make a lot of their money off of people hopelessly unprepared.
Some companies are trying really hard though, take Roland as an example. They introduced an all-in-one unit under the Boss brand has that two independent Roland GT-100 engines to allow two stringed instruments to be plugged in at once, with cab and amp sims, line input backing, suitable for bass and guitar
eBand JS-10
I feel this is exactly the type of item for such use and recommended this a long time ago. Sure its expensive but it addresses all points and then some and a DIY system such as one that I strongly push, would easily outperform even the JS-10 with his mixer and flamma in the chain
Randy, sure, but are you at the point you already have some skill at playing in time? Can you play a groove in some style and make it groove? Rock, jazz, blues, latin, anything with a groove, even a waltz? Do you know the guitar neck well enough to improvise on it? And so forth.
Reason I ask is that the people we are advising here are not necessarily at that level. I suggested learning how to play shaker to get help develop a clock inside the player's head. People want to skip those important skill building steps and just try to make themselves sound okay with technology. Whereas the real trick to sounding good is in the fingers, in the whole body, in the vocal chords, etc. If you can't push synth buttons on time, then quantizing them in time with some software is hugely limiting in terms of artistic expression. What I am advocating for is to address first problems first. A new player needs to practice playing in time. If someone doesn't like doing that, then they are probably not cut out to be a good musician. If someone doesn't like to practice essential musical skills, its like a wannabe physicist who refuses to do math homework or study for tests. How will they get any good an it?
Reason I ask is that the people we are advising here are not necessarily at that level. I suggested learning how to play shaker to get help develop a clock inside the player's head. People want to skip those important skill building steps and just try to make themselves sound okay with technology. Whereas the real trick to sounding good is in the fingers, in the whole body, in the vocal chords, etc. If you can't push synth buttons on time, then quantizing them in time with some software is hugely limiting in terms of artistic expression. What I am advocating for is to address first problems first. A new player needs to practice playing in time. If someone doesn't like doing that, then they are probably not cut out to be a good musician. If someone doesn't like to practice essential musical skills, its like a wannabe physicist who refuses to do math homework or study for tests. How will they get any good an it?
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