When I talk about ego...
A good start would be not to mix belief and knowledge or prospective and verity.
Maybe as you seem to know more than I, You could reread Descartes as a very basic start to beginn with verity concept ?
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Yeah, soon we wiil be explained the wheel was given to us by alliens and personal development is just a question of engineering or culture only. When one can not align two concepts correctly and illustrate these thougth by a Wikipedia citation, one shouldn't claim about verity or knowledge. But ok just for non serious talk for lounge bars. Imho, YMMV, blah. If only there was some humor and surealism behind...
CF, your grandiose views of things leave me shaking my head………have you ever thought for a minute some people might be intelligent enough to get through their own fluff without having being told what is important to society? That some just want a technical education to reach their career goals and thats all?
Society sucks dude! Society is nothing more than one group of people trying to take advantage of another, one up the other, tear the others down, there is no more barn raising mentality………we’ve turned into self serving zombies (even charities) following the others off the cliff like lemmings ……..seems to be what us humans excel at. maybe there’s something to this zombie apocalypse bs after all!
I’ll put my life/achievements on the table against any college educated persons and I can unequivocally guarantee you there will be nothing there I would envy. This will be my last communique on this subject as one doesn’t need a college course to understand what a waste of time and energy, not to mention what a drain on the forum it is.
Society sucks dude! Society is nothing more than one group of people trying to take advantage of another, one up the other, tear the others down, there is no more barn raising mentality………we’ve turned into self serving zombies (even charities) following the others off the cliff like lemmings ……..seems to be what us humans excel at. maybe there’s something to this zombie apocalypse bs after all!
I’ll put my life/achievements on the table against any college educated persons and I can unequivocally guarantee you there will be nothing there I would envy. This will be my last communique on this subject as one doesn’t need a college course to understand what a waste of time and energy, not to mention what a drain on the forum it is.
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I did not have time to follow a couple of threads as I would have liked, I did not have time to respond to the appreciated comments of many, your invectiva was not addressed to me (fortunately!), but I would like to tell you something though quickly.
In a recent thread I wanted to come to the fact that the human being, like the Universe, is not made of matter alone.
And what I really find shocking is seeing how the materiality of things is put as a premise and the rest is excluded.
Why should an engineer not think that there is also something that he cannot measure, nor photograph, nor demonstrate except from his own personal experiences?
Because your own inner experience, I’m not talking about the senses (not hearing, therefore) shouldn’t exist just because I can’t show it to you?
You think you just described the world.
I dare to point out that you have described "only" your world.
And you see how you describe it because you feel detached, separated and antagonistic to everything around you.
But it’s not exactly like that, maybe.
When I have enough time (and I hope also desire) to deepen further, maybe I will do it with pleasure.
One last thing comes to mind: a few days ago someone other than myself in this thread spoke of intuition, adding that you can not quantify the intuition (and I agree).
Then perhaps there is still hope to talk about something not quantifiable, neither demonstrable, nor photographically evidenced without being eaten by the usual wolves so-called materialists, rationalists or I do not know what, but maybe some annoyed philosopher will be able to describe them.
P. S.: Reverso Translator Online without re-read before postin'.
Human being do with what he has.
Why Art is a myth ? It comes from what we are. Creatures that like to transform things but here with aesthical or symbolism (or conceptual) focus to call emotions.. Which is a myth is is that aesthetical is universal.
It is a merchand thing too since long time ago (rarity argument).
It is everywhere (design) with more or less luck.
Why Art is a myth ? It comes from what we are. Creatures that like to transform things but here with aesthical or symbolism (or conceptual) focus to call emotions.. Which is a myth is is that aesthetical is universal.
It is a merchand thing too since long time ago (rarity argument).
It is everywhere (design) with more or less luck.
Art is nothing but a slightly modded version of a thing what we already are familiar with. Keep in mind That modd is completly random. Complete overhaul is uncomfortabe and is regarded as ugly.
Rememer to differentiate between art and neccessity.
Rememer to differentiate between art and neccessity.
Obviously. I think you might be partially right, but not more than that. Some of my elective courses were rather disappointing. Could have just picked up a book an read it, and learned just as much or more. Often have done exactly that. Also, I have spent enough time at major universities to know some of the stuff that goes on in the background. There are politics, a need to find enough students for less popular courses, a need to find students to help with or somehow participate in some way in research, etc. It isn't all organized only in terms of what will best serve the interests of the students over the course of their lifetimes.
Not to mention there are accrediting organizations to deal with, employers who need people trained in particular skills, benefactors to the university who want something, etc.
On a slightly different subject, I object to the attitude in some cultures that the college educated are members of an elite caste above that of the common man. Similarly object to closed trade guilds, although for somewhat different reasons.
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One could say as much about the taste of a fine meal, why people watch TV shows, read fiction, listen to music, dress a certain way, or any number of other things. Yet, all those things are part of the human experience and the human condition.
Moreover, not every slightly modded version of a thing is perceived as art by most people. Similarly, not all slightly modded food is perceived as a fine meal.
You understand it needs a public. Being one person at minimum. That is the support than you call "sligthy different". Though the hands are ruled here by an idea. So the result Could be music too if you prefer the ullustration The frequencies exist but it was aranged by a brain to make it somerhing pleasing. At least for the creator of it. But it could be with less , for instance litterature or poetry. Words exists but the result can be art... Byron, Baudelaire and so on...you are free to appreciate or not.
I do not understand the myth thing you talk about. It is btw when the people behind the monney things (galleries or art auctions house) make it valuable or not, organising a market.
Illustration: For myself only I do not think Kunst is art. For me it is more design. But I am sure it creates emotion for some people.
I do not understand the myth thing you talk about. It is btw when the people behind the monney things (galleries or art auctions house) make it valuable or not, organising a market.
Illustration: For myself only I do not think Kunst is art. For me it is more design. But I am sure it creates emotion for some people.
I think we expect too much from university graduates.
An engineering degree course prioritizes the teaching of principles over practicalities.
Both principles and practicalities are critical to safe flight.
Or safe submersible journeys to the ocean floor.
Which plane I would fly is unanswerable without knowing the skills of the designer. Actually, I wouldn't fly in the plane unless both flew with me, lol.
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I think Art does not need an audience at all, the gesture of Art is made for himself and it does not need any support except your own madness.
As my footnote says, I consider them (the mech engs I work with) the best on the planet.
May I respectfully propose you all follow this link and read Harry Frankfurt‘s masterpiece
https://hifisonix.com/technical/philosophical-musings/
https://hifisonix.com/technical/philosophical-musings/
That ocean company is doomed. The dead were all billionaires. They will sue every penny the have
To not get bored. And kill themselves out of depression. It all come full circle. Vsause is the guy I recommend. For further amusement. I cannot be the only one providing stupid edgyboy content
I just said it needs at minimum one audience : the one who is making it. But most of the time there is a desire to be seen, read, understood as an artist. Sensibility. Art Brut is also something different as for autism.
But yeah, there is something strong in the desire to create. For the creator it is certainly more important to create than to be seen. I would say it is sligthy different for litterature (I exclude poesy here and also philosophy, we have examples of people writting for themselves being mads or not).
Think to this : when one sing under the shower, it doesn't matter if it is good or not but for your ears !
Neuro sciences made huge progress to understand things, it is a little an every day pop up as there is a lot of discoveries.
Now I am obviously not a native english speaker but it seems to me that the second statement (the foot note) does not neutralize the first statement.
At all.
Same keyboard same words same guitar same bongo same synthesizer save frequency band same tech. And you are telling me the you have created something original. You have just shaffeled some tone here and there that we already know.
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