"Where are these 100% facts that prove there are no ghost or spirits? Theories sure, but there are no hard evidence to disprove it.
A lot of paranormal encounters are from those without any grief or stress.
Again were are these 100% facts verified by science?"
Spoken like a true believer.
The fact of the matter is that the perception of ghosts and spirits have been shown to have actual explanations. You are free to believe what you want, and to ignore scientific explanations.
A lot of paranormal encounters are from those without any grief or stress.
Again were are these 100% facts verified by science?"
Spoken like a true believer.
The fact of the matter is that the perception of ghosts and spirits have been shown to have actual explanations. You are free to believe what you want, and to ignore scientific explanations.
"By definition, seeing a loved one who has passed, hearing their voice, or feeling their touch are experiences that can be defined clinically as hallucinations."
I rest my case.
I cannot prove they don't exist. However, I cannot fathom a reason to give any credence to the plethora of claims about ghosts, spirits, etc. I would be glad to believe if anyone ever presented some SCIENTIFICALLY VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE of them.
Meanwhile, science provides explanations based on facts and observations. You are free to ignore the science.
Meanwhile, science provides explanations based on facts and observations. You are free to ignore the science.
I never made that claim. The burden of proof is on you.
Those pertain to hallucinations it does not prove that ghost/spirits dont exist. Im not the one choking here.
You are the one that said this quote> It is 100% a fact that there are no ghosts or spirits.
Again I am not the one that needs it foo.
Well genius, how do you apply a scientific valid test to prove something that doesn't exist, its the same argument to prove the non-existence of a deity.
If you're a firm believer in ghosts please show any evidence you have that can be independently verified.
"its the same argument to prove the non-existence of a deity."
Exactly. Ergo, prove that fluorescent flying monkeys don't fly out of my butt.
Prove there isn't an invisible pink flying unicorn living in my garage. "But I can't see it." "That's because you don't buh-LEAVE. You have to buh-LEAVE to see it." This is the argument for religion in a nutshell.
Logic says you can't prove a negative. Asking to disprove spirits and deities is a logical fallacy.
Exactly. Ergo, prove that fluorescent flying monkeys don't fly out of my butt.
Prove there isn't an invisible pink flying unicorn living in my garage. "But I can't see it." "That's because you don't buh-LEAVE. You have to buh-LEAVE to see it." This is the argument for religion in a nutshell.
Logic says you can't prove a negative. Asking to disprove spirits and deities is a logical fallacy.
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If you cant prove they dont exist using your science then how the heck can you make a bold claim, claiming that they dont exist?
Again I am not the one ignoring the science.
You haven't SHOWN any evidence. I did provide evidence.
You are committing the burden of proof fallacy.
This is the USA in a nutshell; superstitious rubes that expect YOU to debunk their pixies and faries.
When dealing with people like you I use this phrase>" You are not trying to seek the truth, you just want to be right".
You need to capitalize that "truth" to make it True. See how that works?
When dealing with people like you I use this phrase>" You are not trying to seek the truth, you just want to be right".
I dont need to provide any evidence as I have made NO SUCH CLAIMS.
The fallacy is your false claims.
non compos mentis......
Everyone here disagrees
Yes, well it's obvious and since the onus of proof is on us, we can provide the evidence.
Are you the best person to make that judgement.....
In recap, Audio Frenzy made unfalsifiable assertions. Unfalsifiable assertions cannot be examined logically. In retort, I made an unfalsifiable assertion ("100% does not exist") which is the same logical fallacy. I reframed my position ("I would be glad to believe if anyone ever presented some SCIENTIFICALLY VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE of them.") and this position was ignored in typical straw man fashion.
Logic is a bitch.
Logic is a bitch.
I have a theory, that if a thread (or comment section) goes on for long enough, it will eventually fall down the path of "wires/capacitors make a difference". I'm glad that I'm not a moderator on diyaudio, because the amount of times they must put their head in their hands, and think "not AGAIN !".
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