sorry but this simple passive cannot trasform a bad in a good driver ...is a basic thingyep, time will tell. And Steve Deckert owner of Decware has been building speakers and tube amps for over 35y also 😉
And he seems to be pretty honest. Even he made a comment about the frequency issues of the Fast-15 (with his tube gear).
I think (not sure) he might be using now a correction circuit with the Lii Fast-15 driver he talks about here: https://www.decware.com/cgi-bin/yabb22/YaBB.pl?num=1658916276/159#159
I'm not sure which company is making this Fast-15 with the yellow suspension he's using... is it "Lii Audio" or is it "Lii Song" ???
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never ask to a business man a basic thing too 😉
Implying something is "bad" without ever having heard it, is not very valid esp since good/bad is subjective, also a basic thing.sorry but this simple passive cannot trasform a bad in a good driver ...is a basic thing
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I believe that the yellow surround on the “fake” lii-song 15” fast-15 is cloth. Maybe they’re being called “fast” because of faster break-in time, vs the standard f-15.. (?). I imagine that the regular f-15’s treated paper cone surround, needs plenty of break-in before sounding decent.oh well, FYI looks like maybe they are not using the yellow color suspension now on the Fast-15 driver as shown on the lii-audio.com (Lii Song) website:
https://www.lii-audio.com/product/o...il-frequency-response-and-soundstage-fast-15/
Looks better than the yellow IMO. Hopefully nothing is changed but the color, otherwise previous measurements/charts are no longer completely accurate.
LII AUDIO 2021 new FAST-15 full frequency speaker 15 Inch. You can buy on aliexpress.Never wrote anything about their sound as I haven't heard them. The graph comment was to suggest Lii Song wasn't completely misrepresenting the driver.
Regarding Lii Audio vs Lii Song, as far as the West is concerned there's no way to see the former, buy them or hear them. They don't functionally exist. May as well be discussing ghosts so their extended defence here is growing curious.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004439336269.html
Not according to previous posts claiming Lii Audio doesn't sell on Aliexpress. Alibaba also has a few drivers but again no way to tell if they're genuine or knock-offs. It's a comic mess.You can buy on aliexpress.
sorry but there is a lot of bad review free of interest on FB in line with speaker size physic and frequencyImplying something is "bad" without ever having heard it, is not very valid esp since good/bad is subjective, also a basic thing.
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I watched that on YouTube and don’t find it useful. The reviewer listened to new drivers, apparently without giving them any break-in time.sorry but there is a lot of bad review free of interest on FB in line with speaker size physic and frequency
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You have missed the point of much of this thread which is that there are two companies both claiming to be the real Lii Audio. One doesn't sell in China and you can buy their drivers from lii-audio.com. The other only sells in China and you might be able to buy their drivers on Aliexpress. Since US and Europeans and only buy lii-audio.com they think that is the "real" Lii Audio which mostly brands its products as Lii Song now. @caisson rj has argued that the company that only sells in China is the original and better Lii Audio. Nobody seems to have bought and compared drivers from both companies. I will tell you that having bought the Silver 8 and Fast 15 from Lii-Audio.com I do not recommend those drivers and I am confused by the enthusiasm that so many people seem to have for them.Not according to previous posts claiming Lii Audio doesn't sell on Aliexpress. Alibaba also has a few drivers but again no way to tell if they're genuine or knock-offs. It's a comic mess.
That's not the same driver. Are you paying attention or just bashing indiscriminately? The OP asked about the Fast-15. That is not the Fast-15 it's the F-15. And anyway it's easy to find both like and dislike reviews.sorry but there is a lot of bad review free of interest on FB in line with speaker size physic and frequency
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What cabinets did you use them in? And amps used with? It's pretty bad if the specs of the F-15 is soo far off from what's published on their website as the above video review showed (taking his word for it). I hope the Fast-15 isn't also like that.You have missed the point of much of this thread which is that there are two companies both claiming to be the real Lii Audio. One doesn't sell in China and you can buy their drivers from lii-audio.com. The other only sells in China and you might be able to buy their drivers on Aliexpress. Since US and Europeans and only buy lii-audio.com they think that is the "real" Lii Audio which mostly brands its products as Lii Song now. @caisson rj has argued that the company that only sells in China is the original and better Lii Audio. Nobody seems to have bought and compared drivers from both companies. I will tell you that having bought the Silver 8 and Fast 15 from Lii-Audio.com I do not recommend those drivers and I am confused by the enthusiasm that so many people seem to have for them.
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I have only used them open baffle. I think the frequency response charts on the Lii-Audio.com site are excessively smoothed at best or flat out fabrications at worst. If you look at their chart for the Fast 15 you see they use a -10 to 110 dB scale which is ridiculous. I also have never seen a frequency response with a sawtooth pattern like that and the idea that a full range driver is essentially flat +-5dB from 40Hz to 18KHz is absurd. https://www.lii-audio.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/d88aeca9f599977c6df486e9d8187c7.jpgWhat cabinets did you use them in? And amps used with? It's pretty bad if the specs of the F-15 is soo far off from what's published on their website as the above video review showed (taking his word for it). I hope the Fast-15 isn't also like that.
Yeah the Decware measured FR chart I posted above is more believable.I have only used them open baffle. I think the frequency response charts on the Lii-Audio.com site are excessively smoothed at best or flat out fabrications at worst. If you look at their chart for the Fast 15 you see they use a -10 to 110 dB scale which is ridiculous. I also have never seen a frequency response with a sawtooth pattern like that and the idea that a full range driver is essentially flat +-5dB from 40Hz to 18KHz is absurd. https://www.lii-audio.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/d88aeca9f599977c6df486e9d8187c7.jpg
They have to learn first.still boyz do not understand that the problem is the size......
your problem. Some people like them some don't. Same as many speakers. Nothing is perfect. I have a pair of 15" Hawthorne coaxials. Also not perfect but i like how they sound.still boyz do not understand that the problem is the size......
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Btw this review of the F-15 is laughable. Look at the baffle he is using almost same width as the driver 😂more, very interesting
Lii Audio/Lii Song F15 Tested!!
large baffle work at all frequency as usualThe baffle works only in the low frequency region.
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