Okay, but what stuck with my mind also was that he suggested a significantly wider patter for the tweeter above crossover, in order to have a smooth power response summation. When following his 1-1.2 lambda suggestion.
Whoops, single chamfered is not nearly as good for higher frequencies. Is a double chamfer like 2 x 22.5 degree possible?
Excited! 🥳
With a fresh look at the elliptical waveguide, I also realized another reason: compared to a rectangular one, the area of the upper wall which is horizontal is lesser, due to its round transition. With a rectangular waveguide, the horizontal walls that are controlling the vertical response extend into the corners.
I have been playing with the ROSSE formula and compared with the CE260 as a template:
Athough the profile is very close the DI and the impedance look rather different, it is very difficult to match the impedance with a decent performance.
But matching the DI is rather easy but yields a rather different profile:
Is that within expectation?
Here are some small WG to show what can be done:
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smaller still:
I am looking at small devices because it is much more difficult to get them right so they provide better understanding of the limiting factors.
In addition and with the ROSSE formula it is straight forward to increase the radius and have a decent starting point for larger ones.
There is no target for the DI but rather general smoothness.
So far it seems that about 0.85 for the m parameter (apex relative position), about 0.28 for the r parameter (apex radius factor) and about 40deg for the coverage angle constitute a good starting point. With fixed driver exit angle, diamerter this leaves only 3 parameters to vary.
Any comment?
Athough the profile is very close the DI and the impedance look rather different, it is very difficult to match the impedance with a decent performance.
But matching the DI is rather easy but yields a rather different profile:
Is that within expectation?
Here are some small WG to show what can be done:
smaller
smaller still:
I am looking at small devices because it is much more difficult to get them right so they provide better understanding of the limiting factors.
In addition and with the ROSSE formula it is straight forward to increase the radius and have a decent starting point for larger ones.
There is no target for the DI but rather general smoothness.
So far it seems that about 0.85 for the m parameter (apex relative position), about 0.28 for the r parameter (apex radius factor) and about 40deg for the coverage angle constitute a good starting point. With fixed driver exit angle, diamerter this leaves only 3 parameters to vary.
Any comment?
Those are certainly interesting results of the optimization approach, depending on the quantity chosen as a target. I don't know if it's within expectation - those are all simply somewhat different profiles. Both DI and impedance are highly averaged quantities so some differences in the overall results are always to be expected.
Thanks for the effort, it's a nice thing to look at.
Thanks for the effort, it's a nice thing to look at.
Ath 4.8.2 released: http://www.at-horns.eu/#download
Adding enclosures described in User Guide, page 55: http://www.at-horns.eu/release/Ath-4.8.2-UserGuide.pdf#page=55
Adding enclosures described in User Guide, page 55: http://www.at-horns.eu/release/Ath-4.8.2-UserGuide.pdf#page=55
I tried this:
Ath (4.8.2) does something, but gmsh says the geo file contains a syntax error. The file stops halfway line 4435:
What am I doing wrong?
Code:
Throat.Diameter = 25.4
Throat.Angle = 10
Coverage.Angle = 45
Length = 60
Term.s = 1
Term.n = 4
OS.k = 1
Term.q = 0.98
Mesh.LengthSegments = 24
Mesh.AngularSegments = 64
Mesh.ThroatResolution = 4
Mesh.MouthResolution = 8 ; mesh element size for the horn outline
Mesh.SubdomainSlices = ; intentionally empty value (no subdomains)
Mesh.Enclosure = {
Spacing = 30,30,30,200 ; edge distances (left,top,right,bottom) [mm]
Depth = 200 ; enclosure depth [mm]
EdgeRadius = 20 ; radius of the edge treatment [mm]
EdgeType = 1 ; 1=rounded, 2=chamfered
FrontResolution = 8,8,16,16 ; front side mesh element size (q1,q2,q3,q4) [mm]
BackResolution = 20,20,20,20 ; back side mesh element size (q1,q2,q3,q4) [mm]
}Ath (4.8.2) does something, but gmsh says the geo file contains a syntax error. The file stops halfway line 4435:
Code:
Line(2896) = {1448,14What am I doing wrong?
In my case, it appeared after I had messed with ABEC.SimType. I had set it to 2, then to 1, then to 3 and 0, both of which do not exist, and then to 2 again. Don't know if there is a causal relation, also ran the ath command a couple of times. You will have in your ath command line print a line that indicates the enclosure was successfully meshed: -enclosure dimensions: 326 x 570 x 270 mm.
For half symmetry, you must add Mesh.Quadrants = 14, then you see the full enclosure. Otherwise, only quarter symmetry is inserted into ABEC. It then takes a while to calculate, so think first if you want to hit F5. sleepy
Thanks a thousand times @mabat!
Working on a new free standing WG (R-OSSE, ⌀570 x 257 mm, 1.4" throat).
would we be able to get the coeffs?
Works fine but about 2h to complete on a 16/32 cores machine...
Results attached
Some projects that were fine with ATh4.70 are no longer working with Ath4.82
Is that expected?
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