No.
If that were the case the Yamaha NS10 would not be in any studio.
It's FR is terrible while transients, distortion etc are excellent. It is relatively easy to work around a bad FR if you know it, not the case with a bad transient response or high distortion.
The Yamaha NS10 Story
Right here.
I actually like the sound of the Bose 301 better than an Usher 2-way.
9950/9930 tweeter and 8948A woofer.
Do a blind test that's how you figure it out.
I built a speaker and my better half stated: "why bother? You can't tell the difference in TV speakers and the big speakers you built."
I thought: that's ridiculous.
Then I would be listening to my speakers for 20 minutes thinking: wow these sound great, only to later realize I was listening to my TV speakers the whole time. Which are probably tiny full-range oval speakers.
There is way too much focus on highs and mids in speaker building. Highs and bass can sound very bad. Mids, hard to mess that up IMHO.
Satori has great build quality, Vifa NE123W-08 probably would sound better to most in blind test, if I had to guess.
SS and Vifa/Peerless open basket neo motor driver probably sound the best too most people in blind test.
Most drivers sound best when physics is on their side.
AMT highs (ribbon too fragile over time), both hard to manufacture consistently and dome mid.
But case can be made for Satori/Vifa cone and XT25 tweeter or dome if you like domes.
Why? Domes and AMT's break down on the low end of their cross-over functions and as speakers age also.
Look at which speakers age the best (maybe you don't care, also fine).
For example JBL L100 ages very well.
3 inch fullrange or tweeter / mid combo (30-40 cm^2 cone or dome) attenuated down to same sensitivity as 3 inch fullrange probably sound 99% the same.
In blind test a huge percentage of people (even "audiophiles") will prefer the 3" fullrange.
This is classic over-engineering by geniuses, just to be fancy and have something fancy to do.
The bass response is where ("audiophile") speakers sound wildly different.
BTW most of the 3" fullranges designs sound better with two 3" drivers and at least 20 degrees askew, same as Bose designs. Look at the FR and off-axis response, FR rises where the 3-4" drivers starts to "beam". Using 2 will solve the rising response and dispersion issues with some "minimal" draw-backs.
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Kind of agree with the "flat FR is most important", but the volume you listen at is also important.
Low mms and high BL are important.
These are expensive parameters.
Look at pro woofers, they are usually the best design with best longevity.
Most speaker builders best speakers are with pro drivers, some with AMT tweeters or dome. I don't like dome tweeters, but that's just personal taste I guess. They do have a high moving mass compared to XT25 (BL is the same) and especially AMT (moving mass). Ribbons are the best, but have too many draw backs, IMHO. Generally, just increase cone/dome stiffness and decreases weight and increase BL and wow it's magic better sound. Veils off and such silly language, it's just physics. But stiffness also has draw backs, really see it in highs, therefore you have the ring radiators and AMT's and ribbons.
Low mms and high BL are important.
These are expensive parameters.
Look at pro woofers, they are usually the best design with best longevity.
Most speaker builders best speakers are with pro drivers, some with AMT tweeters or dome. I don't like dome tweeters, but that's just personal taste I guess. They do have a high moving mass compared to XT25 (BL is the same) and especially AMT (moving mass). Ribbons are the best, but have too many draw backs, IMHO. Generally, just increase cone/dome stiffness and decreases weight and increase BL and wow it's magic better sound. Veils off and such silly language, it's just physics. But stiffness also has draw backs, really see it in highs, therefore you have the ring radiators and AMT's and ribbons.
Here a lot of measured monitors (the research paper) along with the famous NS10 ... https://root.cambridge-mt.com/SiteDocs/MSFTSS/
I would like to mention that CSD's are typically scaled in msec but newer software can scale a CSD in periods which makes much more sense from a hearing point of view!
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I would like to mention that CSD's are typically scaled in msec but newer software can scale a CSD in periods which makes much more sense from a hearing point of view!
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I got the ATC and Volt 3" domes mixed up. I meant to say the ATC isn't available to diy.
For such ridiculous prices I would expect to get at least a vapor deposit layer of pure gold on the domes! And the sticky coating on the back side! Plus a detachable metal mesh protection! Not to forget replacements! Btw - what about compact neodymium magnets? Their magnetizers seem to be more than 40 years old! (only capable to magnetize plain ole ferrites)
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Mr. Goldfinger
Been running the MW13TX-4 with a Seas DXT for around a month now.... works better that anything I tried so far Very transparent, no signs of "personal" sound or misbehavior. Just disappear and makes me forget the speakers are there... when I close my eyes that is.... they are not pretty.... yet
It's just a testbox, but the nylon ring I made to let it fit, does not seem to make too much trouble
Minimum reflections, gating and 3 different angles - cross at 2kHz.
Very transparent, no signs of "personal" sound or misbehavior. Just disappear and makes me forget the speakers are there... when I close my eyes that is.... they are not pretty.... yet It's just a testbox, but the nylon ring I made to let it fit, does not seem to make too much trouble
Minimum reflections, gating and 3 different angles - cross at 2kHz.
Fair enough. Strangely, it didn't occur to me that might be what you meant.
I have a pair of ATC already, I just have a second project and was interested in the Volts. My partner was not amused at the quote though.
I used the SBs in my new center. Well behaved. As good as a ScanSpeak for 5 times the price? Probably not. Happy with them for my use.
I was just modeling the CSS 7 inch. Looks like it will work out fine to 2200.
I have not found a 4 or 5 that can do 400 - 4000 clean with efficiency that blends OK.
I was just modeling the CSS 7 inch. Looks like it will work out fine to 2200.
I have not found a 4 or 5 that can do 400 - 4000 clean with efficiency that blends OK.
Late to the party, but my favorite in this category is FE168EZ
https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/approx-6-fullrange/fostex-fe168ez-6.5-full-range-sigma-series/
https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/approx-6-fullrange/fostex-fe168ez-6.5-full-range-sigma-series/
How do you handle the rather ragged response? I use a few FE85's but with modifications. ( evil dust cap) Tried a couple Mark Audio, not much success there either. Frame reflection kills them. I wonder if there is just something that does not align with building a really good 4. Some catch-22 with the suspension, mass or who knows what. Seems getting anything to do 2 to 4K smoothly just does not work. Almost have to jump to a 1/1/8 dome.
Nice Farytale.
But the reason the NS10 is used in many studios is because it has a representative bad FR for cross-checks how the mix will sound on the cheapest kitchen radios.
Hi.
Have a look for Accuton drivers "Ceramic" if price doesn't matter or Eton SYMPHONY I ($225) and II ($210) or Satori MW13P ($215). Accuton's ceramic midrange is about $950. Cheapers ones are Eton 5-512/C8/25 RP ($115).
Unfortunately Eton is currently having delivery problems, perhaps some online shops have some pieces. Eton develops and produces in Germany, SB acoustics in Denmark/Indonesia.
Greetings
Have a look for Accuton drivers "Ceramic" if price doesn't matter or Eton SYMPHONY I ($225) and II ($210) or Satori MW13P ($215). Accuton's ceramic midrange is about $950. Cheapers ones are Eton 5-512/C8/25 RP ($115).
Unfortunately Eton is currently having delivery problems, perhaps some online shops have some pieces. Eton develops and produces in Germany, SB acoustics in Denmark/Indonesia.
Greetings
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I'm building another multiway project with Dynaudio MW152 as midrange, supported by 8" woofer 24W100 and Satori tweeter
https://www.woofersetc.com/p-5552-mw-152-dynaudio-575-midwoofer.html
someday if budget permit, i'd like to buy Esotar2 430+110
4" or 5" is best suitable size midrange for me, highpass around 300Hz above
https://www.woofersetc.com/p-5552-mw-152-dynaudio-575-midwoofer.html
someday if budget permit, i'd like to buy Esotar2 430+110
4" or 5" is best suitable size midrange for me, highpass around 300Hz above
