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If we take Miss Thunburgs route we may have little money spare to solve the problems coming. The poor will become poorer. As the UK found out circa 1803 ( Enclosures acts ) the poor make us all poor. Miss Thunburg that's where you might do more good. Pensions payable at $5 dollars a day might be to them being rich. Sweden is very rich due to iron. Carbon neutral? Sweden was very poor in the past said American public service broadcasting when saying about Sweden and it's new whealth. It was locomotives that go to the Arctic daily to a port in Norway being discussed. Concrete and iron are required and always will be. No good having electric cars to feel better. Electric cars are mostly a political move and I will not spell that out as these things are highly sensetive.

During the Icelandic volcanic event when aircrafts were grounded the temperature did rise. The haze may well help. It was said a colourant in the fuel might be useful. Not sure I would go for that. Alex Jones reasons excluded ( New World Order or whatever ).

As Mr Aldrin of NASA said. 2 billion when he went to the Moon and 8 now. Not 100% correct. Now Miss T is that a factor? I mostly believe in the science of Global Warming. It's the spokes people I have no time for. In English we say " They know less than nothing". If looked at it's exactly true. A get poor quick idea.
 
It was 15 minutes from the time they were given the evacuation order till the fire reached town and with the high winds and high temp it swept through quickly. The middle pic is from across the river.
Thanks for the clarification, Cal. I can't imagine what it must've been like for the residents to flee for their lives, knowing all the while they might very well have nothing to return to.
 
You can't take all you want when the threat is knocking at your door. It went from being on alert to: RUN! in just minutes.
It may be that train wheel sparks ignited this. My guess is it was a careless human and whether or not this is related to the Sparks lake fire we will find out.
If there is any solace in this, it's that Lytton has/had only about 1000 persons living there. It could have been so bad.

I shouldn't say that. It is so bad.
 
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Wow, that's a lot of hate on little Greta Thunberg. She's all of 18 now, and all she's doing is speaking her mind. If there's any guilt to be had about anything on which she might be wrong (and there's a lot to argue on that point), that guilt falls on anyone who pays attention and doesn't do their own research and thinking. We all speak our own truths, and sometimes every one of us is wrong. No exceptions. Trump spoke his own, and it is incumbent on all of us to figure out where we stand on that. So whether GT is right or wrong, it sure seems like a lot of weight is being thrown on her at a very young age. Seems a bit much for people who are probably considerably older than she.

More importantly, to the extent there is any scientific question on climate change, it all seems pretty political to me. Which is allowed here?
 
We were expecting rain yesterday and today, but we are lucky to have (so far) nice weather though.

We Swedes have split opinions on Greta. She's been doing a great job to put focus on the climate change but many people have a dislike in that she lends her voice to political groups with other messages, blaming all and everything on middleaged white men ...
 
I like Greta and think she is being used. It could be very harmful for her. I would love to meet her and try to get her to see a bigger picture ( not mine, just more questions ). I abhor populataion reduction. However a gradual one over lets say 100 years to 4 billion could be possible. The wildlife would have more room also.


Despite all attempts London is polluted. Electric cars should change that. Covid also as people are moving out. True Cornish people are no longer able to buy a home because of this ( simple maths, house prices and wages ). Cornwall has strong links to the world of engineering as they were the first to use steam power ( circa 1710 ). As coal is hard to find in Cornwall that was a very big deal ( It would fill 1000 big books to expand on that and is how we got to here, Davy, Faraday, Mary Shelley ). James Watt revised one of those engines to reduce running costs ( Dudley No3 might be one ). That thinking is now Gloabal warming. Not money but heat. Money does come into it. From the little I know James Watt was not unlike Greta. Mathew Boulton saw James's vision. MB's friends changed the World as they liberated science. Even DNA. Conections of people and science. Free thinking and walking by Moon light to talk about it. It's said Mad King George helped. His troubled mind was ideal.

I flew over Canada more than once to CES. London to nearly over the pole, then Huston and on. Flight to LV from Huston. I longed to see something for hours. Where was Canada? Chicago was the first real sign of life. Unlike Austrailia Canada can solve any problem it gets except maybe being homesick for an exact place ( I get that ). It's a vast land. I respect that fire is a dreadful thing.


Greta isn't wrong. She is young and a victim of fame. Like Mr Trump at least she says something. Saying the wrong thing is more useful than saying nothing. These days everybody is wrong as someone else is being asked to pay when they didn't cause it. Much of what we know now was done in 1851+. I have one regret about Miss T. She says we ruined her life. It could be she ruined ours. Doing the right things for the wrong reasons. They most likely are the right things so I must not moan. I was forced to be an electrical engineer. At 64 I now love it. My recent love is Graphine-Aluminium. Not better than copper, sometimes a better choice. I suspect it's early days. Austrailia is a source of ideas on that. Canada and Austrailia should be buddies. I can understand if England is excluded.

Carlp. Beaufully said.
 
We were expecting rain yesterday and today, but we are lucky to have (so far) nice weather though.

We Swedes have split opinions on Greta. She's been doing a great job to put focus on the climate change but many people have a dislike in that she lends her voice to political groups with other messages, blaming all and everything on middleaged white men ...


Yes. Sweden is a remarkable place. I have never been there. Covid stops me wanting to travel. Not fear, a love of where I am.
 
I think the Swedish border is open for you if you just can show that you have been vaccinated against CoVid.

There's a lot going on in Sweden to make phase out fuel fossiles and some have proposed a total ban of gasoline from year 20??.
But e-cars is also a dead end. The batteries don't last a life time are extremely expensive and requires digging up rare metals all over the world and not seldom in conflict areas.
My car has so far run 140.000 miles and I expect yet another 100.000 miles. No e-car can do that.

We also have had our share of wildfires, but what we fear is not draught and heat but the opposite - more rain, heavier rain, storms.
Some estimations have given a rised level of lake Vänern (where I live) by maybe 3-4 feet thus flooding central parts of a handfuil of cities around the lake.
 
Interesting short read:

The scientists hired by big oil who predicted the climate crisis long ago | Environment | The Guardian

Magnus, there are new technologies in the works for batteries and motors without rare earth metals. And you will find that eventually, e-cars last much longer but maybe they become more recyclable and it makes sense to swap out your car more often anyway. The economics of ecars is going to change so that it is desirable to own them, don’t worry, they will take over everywhere I guarantee.
 
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The thing that is missing from most of the research these days is the driver that creates ice ages. This is most likely a sine wave with a period of 10s of thousands of years. The missing data is where on earth are we in that time scale. If we are in the rising part of the cycle then the global warming will be normal and we will need to adapt.
A lot of forests were once cut for fuel allowing the sun to heat the soil but not until the burning of raw coal was cut back so that more solar energy could reach the soil and heat it up.
The best we can do in the short term is to cover the bare soil with solar panels and find batteries that do not contain "blood minerals".
Lead batteries are still the best as there is masses of lead that was once used for solder. The weight does not matter if they are in fixed installations.
 
You can't take all you want when the threat is knocking at your door. It went from being on alert to: RUN! in just minutes.

My son, daughter-in-law and 3 grands live in N California - their two cars are always packed with "go bags", and they are prepared to leave on an instant's notice.

In 2017, before kids, of the 11 houses in their little neck of Glen Ellen 8 were destroyed by fire. Their house survived as my son is ruthless about removing dead underbrush.

At the time I posted some pix of the fire.
 
The thing that is missing from most of the research these days is the driver that creates ice ages. This is most likely a sine wave with a period of 10s of thousands of years. The missing data is where on earth are we in that time scale. If we are in the rising part of the cycle then the global warming will be normal and we will need to adapt.

This is, of course, possible, largely because we are in the infancy of climate science. And if it is unrelated to human activity then nothing we do is likely to help. But to the best of our scientific ability (and climate science, despite it's genesis in the 80s - a fair bit while I was at Duke U studying environmental science - is still imprecise compared to some sciences), the growth in CO2 and temperatures has been rapid beyond anything in the past that we can estimate. That is why I for one am concerned. Of course, because we are thousands of years out from the last climate swings, nothing is absolutely certain. But smart money is one climate change.
 
If we try things we will get data. We might find we learn quickly. My guess is the people who speak now will be asked to be more scientific. That would please me. An ideal job for AI. Nuclear clean up also.

I was wondering if old 747s could be made into water bombers. We have a flock of 747s at Kemble near me for scrap. BA said they have two years life which won't be used now. Jet fuel can lift tons more than batteries. Corn oil if you must.

Some big floats and who knows. Tell me off if you like. C-130 better still. The fuel pods look to be anchor points for floats. Do it cheap, do it now.

It's the engieers who have to solve this. Like moving house it's best to do a small thing every day if time allows. That's how the junk got there.

Winter to summer is a sine wave. My son noticed 25th December in the North is the New year which to a scientific ancient mind was the first longer day. That's remarkable that they could see that. Look at tables to see the values if doubtful. He says the solar system is at a sine wave heat peak.

Mr Rs Unknown unknows are often quoted to me now. They dont joke. It's a very sensible idea. Doubtless no one says who told him ( Plato ? ). Viruses were mostly conjecture in 1900.

BTW. I realise the engines of 747s would hit the water. Long legs? Canadian companies are experts on this. They even have an industry. How many realise that Avro Canada changed the world. Read the history and how NASA got their engineers. AVRO UK went from unknown to known via a few mistakes. The Israeli airforce has to thank Canada for a gross mistake of giving in, France took the engines.
 
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You will find retro fitting ageing 747's would be cost prohibitive considering there are B737's already available.
The problem we are facing is the climate changing faster than we anticipated - Crushing climate impacts to hit sooner than feared: draft UN report.
In Australia the bushfire season is starting earlier and finishing later.
Canada is now experiencing the same weather conditions that caused the bushfires Australia experienced in 2019-2020. Places in Sydney were experiencing temperatures close to 49 degrees in 2020.
 
In 1939 impossible was not allowed. It was found mostly obsolete bi planes were great for sinking battleships. More were built until late into the war! The Huricane was a biplane at first ( likely ). That saved the lives of pilots as it's primtive build was durable. What we call the Caterlina was an inspired design. I think the UK buying it helped. On paper it's useless. Adapted to turboprop ( Soviet Bear prop 15 000 BHP ? ) it could work if upscaled. The P51 was deamed usless until RR put a Merlin in. We were desperate for something to use so bought all the rejects. On paper the Allinson engine was fine. It wasn't. Stupid airflow mostly. The Merlin is a horrible engine that works great.

If you convert a 747 as one would then forget it. This is about low cost and able to fly at all. Perfect is the enemy of possible. The key facts were two years air frame life and engines that work. I would guess 20 years life as a very crude water bomber. Safety first. Mostly keep the water out of the enigines. Long legs is the cheapest option if strong enough. It would look stupid. It might save lives. B737s was what Boeing thought the best use of the aircraft in the late 1960s. No 737 max electronics please ( fixed or not ). Although very likely required ( think about it ). The Lockheed Starfighter needed that. It would have been cheap to make and competetive even now.
 
Soggy Florida

Here in Florida, it is supposed to rain a lot in the summer. And boy, has it. We got about 5 inches on Saturday. We have a tropical storm due here in three days 🙂

Of course, rain is a recurrent theme in pop music. Here's a few lines from a 1970s Robin Trower song:
"Well now, maybe things will get better/But a drowning man don't get no wetter
Same rain falls on you, that falls on me."

Climate Change: I debate that topic elsewhere, and don't especially want to start here. But I'd like to throw out, just for people to meditate upon, a few considerations that almost never crop up in the heated discussions: What I find interesting about the following topics is that they're relevant no matter your position on global warming, nor in fact, whether it's "real" or that man's remedial actions will have any effect. In other words, we can't escape these. I don't want to get too political since that is a no-no here at diyaudio.

(1) Is it even possible to totally convert even a single nation 100% non-carbon? Funding issues aside, there appear to be hard resource limits. E.g. a recent news report claims that even to equip the UK alone with EVs would more than consume several of the world's supply of critical inputs (say, cobalt). If a country that is < 1% of the world population and 3% of GDP alone would make such a resource claim, that shows there's a problem. Even if that report is inaccurate, the problems of limited resources, budgets, price hikes is not invalidated.

(2) The astronomical financial costs. Have they been realistically estimated? There's a reason that government "incentives" are required for nearly all green energy projects, and it's not because they're cheaper than what they propose to replace.
(3) Even if the "rich" nations (primarily, the OECD) were to go 100% Green, what about the rest of the world, who produces the majority of the pollutants? Again realistically, what are the chances that China, India and lesser polluters would make the sacrifices required to go carbon-free?
(4) With (3) in mind, isn't it likely that countries that paid the cost to go Green will be hobbled in terms of economic competition?
 
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A bit South of me (some 100km) are places known for loads of rain. However that area is very much like Oregon and Washington - high ground where the clouds can drop their payload, but we miss that some.

Was hoping for some heavy rains to clear the air from pollen and dust, but that was all in vain. However we drove around in the neighborhood yesterday and experience a great day (like today).
 

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Currently we have quite an ideal summer weather over here so spent a few hours out in the archipelago today, a slightly radiated feel and all the reflections from the water makes the UV exposure more intense, thankfully my skin is already primed.

With regards to the climate thingy I think the current downing of much of the airline traffic due to a certain health plandemahem have for the past and present summer given us a much clearer sky without all those ugly crisscross streaks, even the occasionally silver-grey haze hasn't shown up at all, some times I'm wondering whether it's all due to cons or chems, don't know, nonetheless it's pleasantly quieter around here as we have the international airport not very far away.
 

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