US Naval pilots "We see UFO everyday for at least a couple of years"

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amplidude said:
We should spend our resources on not to destroy our precious planet, it seems it's a rare gem.
My stomach often turns when I hear about spices extinction, planet heating etc.
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Well done Thomas! This is the most important and useful conclusion for this thread. Perhaps there are lots of other planets but none are accessible to us in the foreseeable future and we must indeed take care of our precious home.
 
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Apparently these sightings went back all the way to the 1950's and 1960's. Unlikely from the Chinese since they were still riding on bicycles back then.

U.S. government prepares to issue landmark report on UFOs | Reuters

WASHINGTON, June 24 (Reuters) - The U.S. government, once openly dismissive of UFO sightings that for decades sparked the popular imagination, is poised to issue an expansive account of what it calls "unidentified aerial phenomena," based heavily on observations by American military pilots.

The U.S. intelligence community, in conjunction with the Pentagon, is due in the coming days to submit a report to Congress on the subject. The Pentagon in recent years has released or confirmed the authenticity of video from naval aviators showing enigmatic aircraft exhibiting speed and maneuverability exceeding known aviation technologies.

In the lead-up to its forthcoming report, Defense Department officials have made clear they take the issue seriously while sidestepping questions about any potential extraterrestrial origins. The report marks a turning point for the U.S. military after decades of deflecting, debunking and discrediting observations of unidentified flying objects and "flying saucers."

"We take reports of incursions into our airspace – by any aircraft, identified or unidentified – very seriously, and investigate each one," Pentagon spokesperson Sue Gough said.

The experience of retired U.S. Navy Lieutenant Commander Alex Dietrich is a case in point. The fighter pilot was among several aviators from the aircraft carrier USS Nimitz involved in a 2004 encounter off California's coast with unknown aircraft described as resembling large "Tic Tac" breath mints.

Dietrich recalled in an interview with Reuters this week that the oblong object lacked "any visible flight control surfaces or means of propulsion." Dietrich said she believes the episode was "analyzed in a professional, sober way" by the military chain of command after she and her colleagues were debriefed.

She said she hopes her ability to go public will help ease the stigma others once faced under similar circumstances, encouraging them to "speak up, even if they don't know what they saw."

"I'm trying to normalize it by talking about it," Dietrich said, adding, "I hope I'm not the 'UFO, Tic Tac person' for the rest of my life."

The New York Times reported on June 3 that U.S. intelligence officials have found no evidence that unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) witnessed by Navy pilots are alien spacecraft, but cannot explain the unusual movements of these objects and cannot definitively rule out extraterrestrial explanations.

The Times, citing senior administration officials briefed on a classified version of the report, said officials found that the vast majority of more than 120 UAP incidents over the past two decades - many observed by personnel aboard U.S. Navy aircraft and warships - did not originate from any American military or other advanced government technology.

The term "unidentified flying objects," or UFOs, long associated with the notion of alien spacecraft, has been replaced in official government parlance by "UAP." In addition to the UAP 2004 incident, others from 2014 and 2015 occurring off the U.S. East Coast have been confirmed by the Navy, with the objects deemed "unidentified."

The report, to be issued by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, will include the work of a U.S. Navy-led task force established by the Pentagon in August 2020 to examine UAP incidents. U.S. Senator Marco Rubio was instrumental in commissioning the report, ordered as part of broader legislation passed last year.

COLD WAR FLYING SAUCERS

Public fascination with UFOs generally dates to 1947, when the pilot of a small airplane reported seeing nine "saucer-like" objects flying at supersonic speed near Mount Rainier in Washington state. His account gave rise to a newspaper headline about "flying saucers" and preceded a wave of similar U.S. sightings in subsequent months.

That same year, U.S. military officials said wreckage recovered near Roswell, New Mexico, represented remnants of a crashed weather balloon, though theories of a downed alien spacecraft and recovered bodies of extraterrestrial beings have lingered in UFO lore.

Reacting to such incidents during the height of the Cold War, a CIA advisory panel concluded that UFO sightings posed a potential threat to national security. So began the government's history of official skepticism toward such reports, according to Christopher Mellon, a former deputy assistant defense secretary for intelligence who has urged greater official transparency on the subject.

While publicly dismissive of UFOs, the Air Force investigated and cataloged more than 12,000 sightings under its Project Blue Book program, categorizing 701 cases as "unidentified" before the project ended in 1969. The Air Force later said it found no indication of a national security threat or evidence of extraterrestrial craft.

Conventional national security risks posed by such incidents will likely be covered in the forthcoming report, according to Mick West, a UFO skeptic and researcher. On the other hand, West added, "evidence that UAPs represent something extraordinary - like anti-gravity, possibly aliens - has not been forthcoming and it is unlikely it will be."
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When Does the Pentagon UFO Report Come Out? What We Know

Looks like June 25 is not a hard stop. Considering how slow the gov. tends to move, who knows when.

When exactly will the report be made public?

The legislation President Trump signed on December 27 said intelligence officials should submit their report within 180 days, which would fall in late June. But as the Washington Post reported, it may not arrive on time:

Two factors might delay the report’s release: Agencies have missed similar congressional reporting deadlines in the past; and the provision is not technically binding, as the language was included in the Senate Intelligence Committee’s report on the bill, not the bill itself.

“In other words, it isn’t statute, but the agencies/departments generally treat report language as bill language,” said one senior Senate aide familiar with the legislation.
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#585
Bigun said:
Well done Thomas! This is the most important and useful conclusion for this thread. Perhaps there are lots of other planets but none are accessible to us in the foreseeable future and we must indeed take care of our precious home.
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Don't you realize the Earth had gone through mass extinctions over and over many times in the past? And it all happened without human burning oil.
 
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andy2 said:
When Does the Pentagon UFO Report Come Out? What We Know

Looks like June 25 is not a hard stop. Considering how slow the gov. tends to move, who knows when.
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I'm not expecting them to come fully clean, despite the new law supposedly compelling them to. If they know what's behind the phenomena, that answer surely must be worrisome for them. If they don't know, that answer must be equally worrisome for them. So, I expect them to largely continue the approach they have been taking for 75 years. Obfuscate. I do hope that, at the least, they more explicitly acknowledge that the phenomena is real. In doing that, I hope that it is accompanied by greater clarity photographic evidence. That's the most I expect from tomorrow's release.
 
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^^^ Hopefully with more pubic and congressional pressure behind them, the DOD will get its act together. All that money we spent on them and they can't analyze some basic radar and infrared data? Why not sharing the data to the scientific communities? I understand some of the radar stuffs are top secrets but surely they can show more than what has been released. I think the human race "can handle the truth".
 
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andy2 said:
^^^ Hopefully with more pubic and congressional pressure behind them, the DOD will get its act together. All that money we spent on them and they can't analyze some basic radar and infrared data? Why not sharing the data to the scientific communities? I understand some of the radar stuffs are top secrets but surely they can show more than what has been released. I think the human race "can handle the truth".
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Can we? I'm not so certain. I think this topic clearly has the potential to be highly subversive to a number of major societal institutions. Such as religious, historical, and especially, governmental.
 
#592
I think if an alien race landed their space ship in the middle of Manhattan and pop the hatch "here I am" tomorrow, then something so sudden like that will probably cause mass hysteria.

But if the words come from the DoD, then I don't think there will any large scale affect. I mean the idea of an alien race had visited the earth has been around long enough that people will not have any knee jerk reaction.
 
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Lastly, according to the New York Times article, the final report includes a “classified annex” of information deemed unsuitable for public release—leaving more than enough room for die-hard UFO advocates to remain convinced that the U.S. government is hiding the truth.
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Oh well I guess all the interesting stuffs will be under the "classified" section. Why am I not surprised?
 
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Now if the DOD wants to keep stuffs under the classified section because they don't want to reveal our radar detection capability to either the Russians or the Chinese then I can understand, but if they keep it from the public just because they fear the public may not be able to handle the truth then well I got a problem with it. We have come a long way so I am not sure that would be a justification.

Experts Weigh In on Pentagon UFO Report - Scientific American
“The report would be immensely helpful if the data that informed it are made publicly available so that more experts and scientists can look at it and hopefully reach a scientific consensus on the nature of some of the unexplained events. Otherwise, there will always be conspiracy theories shrouding, and inhibiting, a proper scientific investigation of UAPs.”
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