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Planet Earth may be far more special than we think
Planet Earth may be far more special than we think - BBC Science Focus Magazine
Planet Earth may be far more special than we think
Planet Earth may be far more special than we think - BBC Science Focus Magazine
You say there's no evidence even though there is documented evidence by the military for these observation. This has occurred both by eyesight of multiple credible witnesses and by recordings of various telemetry instruments that the military operates. Why do you say there's no evidence? Is it only because "you" have not seen it. I pity the victim of a crime that has you sitting as a juror. All the evidence in the world can be brought out against the victimizer and because you weren't there when the crime occurred then there is "no evidence". When you say there is no evidence then you are discounting and smearing the reputations of all the people on those ships that have documented their experiences. And until just very recently those individuals have done that in the face of much ridicule. Who do you think has more on the line, you or someone who was actually there? You have nothing on the line, and dare I say it, no credibility on this subject.
Yup, June 25 is tomorrow. Hopefully the DoD won't bail out. All that money spent but they can't get it figured out. It would be a waste if they can't.
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If these documented experiences included physical evidence that these were clearly identifiable as craft piloted by aliens from another planet or wherever it would be different. I have no problem with the observations as presented, "it must be aliens" still dwells in the realm of belief.
I'm still surprised at the lack of interest in the Navy getting patents several years ago on similar craft with essentially unproven specious physics and strangely short claims. Electro-gravitics is fringe physics with all the irreproducible or unprovable results and scientists gone missing. When I see, "I had investors to build full working models but they wanted financial control and my work belongs to everyone", it is a red flag also put out by many of the free energy scammers. At least Steorn went down as a scam, they once said they don't understand how it "works" but we don't understand gravity either. Sound familiar?
Ironically my first supervisor as a student intern in 1970 is now the principle investigator of TESS and I have friends at LIGO from a small contribution I made. Some comments here "discount and smear" the work of so called "orthodox" science and scientists and I find them to come from another size small of mind.
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Problem is, even presenting just the observations (with or without a historical context), there’s always a skeptic willing to conflate (straw man) the claim with an absurd hypothesis. A simple “I saw a UFO” gets twisted into “I saw an alien spaceship” gets twisted into “so-and-so believes in alien visitors”. Nominally, skeptics are incapable of following the claims as stated due to skeptical dogma. Thus they are also disinterested in watching a film on the subject, let alone read a book. It’s always “show me a clear picture of an alien spacecraft, I promise I know what one actually looks like and I promise not to move the goalposts” (fingers crossed behind the back).
Scott, I would sincerely like you to watch The Phenomenon and share you thoughts on it. If it costs money to stream I will PayPal you funds.
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I noticed when referring to the subject generally, it's "the craft."
When referring to a specific event, it's "the object."
The UAP task force report will be underwhelming (no compelling new information) I’ve been led to believe. I have put no eggs in that basket.
Smart money is on SkyHub in the long term, IMO.
Also of more interest is the paper Jacques Vallee has submitted for peer review regarding advanced metallurgical analysis of supposed recovered UFO craft samples. Among the samples is claimed to be materials from the Socorro incident as well as the ‘52 DC flyover encounter.
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I agree on the report adding virtually nothing new.
I thought Vallee was into the inter-dimensional hypothesis, I noticed his comments about Fatima and Lourdes, but I was under the impression that Joseph Smith did believe in ET's.
I thought Vallee was into the inter-dimensional hypothesis, I noticed his comments about Fatima and Lourdes, but I was under the impression that Joseph Smith did believe in ET's.
Will the remaining samples be independently analyzed for verification?
If so, I'll make a note to watch for all the results.
If so, I'll make a note to watch for all the results.
This method of communication being so inefficient, attention to detail does play a role.
BTW, you seem to be taking this UFO related discussion too seriously.
It's clear that you need to look up the definition of, corroborated.
No, I absolutely have not asserted that. I have remained agnostic about the question of alien visitation. What I have said, is no different than what the U.S. Govt' itself has now said. That mysterious aerial phenomena is occuring, and that it's possible they have an alien origin. That's what our own gov't is saying, you know that, right?
Actually, that has been my position, not yours. I've only written about possibilities. Likelihoods. Notions of absolutes, such there being no other advanced life in this galaxy except us, has come from you. You have not written only about probabilities.
It's disappointing, to read you make such dismissive statements about what I've written. In addition, your notions about how you would feel about studying an ant hill means nothing, either to entomologists, or to potential aliens visitors, I suspect.
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“You say there's no evidence even though there is documented evidence by the military for these observation.”
There’s evidence of lights. There’s no evidence that Zordon from Andromeda is here and trying to communicate is there?
There’s evidence of lights. There’s no evidence that Zordon from Andromeda is here and trying to communicate is there?
Yes, we all agree that is a strange claim to make. What thought process has led you to that hypothesis?
Don’t understand if this is a joke about Mormonism. Vallee entertains a host of theories and to an extent I agree with him; if what we are seeing is inter-dimensional we have no reason to suppose it is intrinsically extraterrestrial as well.
"Actually, that has been my position, not yours. I've only written about possibilities. Likelihoods. Notions of absolutes, such there being no other advanced life in this galaxy except us, has come from you. You have not written only about probabilities."
I don't think so. I've simply stated (on quite a few occasions, and repeat it again for the record) that the probability of advanced alien civilizations is pretty low, and on that basis I doubt we have had alien visitations. There are no absolutes in a statement like that.
I guess our difference of opinion arises because I refuse to entertain fantasies without hard proof.
On the corroborated bit, it seems when these things are analysed and put under the microscope, there are rarely independent sources that can support a claim. A pilot in a navy fighter with IR footage doesn't count. An analysis of the event from c. 10 yrs ago suggests it is he IR signature of another fighter - and the movement on the recording simply the result of the IR camera on the trailing fighter losing track of the object in front because of the angles involved - not hypersonic speeds with zero sonic boom or any of that stuff.
This discussion has unfortunately descended into the same kind we have with folks who claim they can hear 3rd harmonic distortion at -110 dB but refuse to accept a DB test challenge ('comon, DB tests are not a valid way to listen for this stuff!')
Again, show me the hard evidence - a dead alien, a piece of wreckage etc. There are 2 billion mobiles on the planet with decent camera's - I'm all eyes and ears.
Peace
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I don't think so. I've simply stated (on quite a few occasions, and repeat it again for the record) that the probability of advanced alien civilizations is pretty low, and on that basis I doubt we have had alien visitations. There are no absolutes in a statement like that.
I guess our difference of opinion arises because I refuse to entertain fantasies without hard proof.
On the corroborated bit, it seems when these things are analysed and put under the microscope, there are rarely independent sources that can support a claim. A pilot in a navy fighter with IR footage doesn't count. An analysis of the event from c. 10 yrs ago suggests it is he IR signature of another fighter - and the movement on the recording simply the result of the IR camera on the trailing fighter losing track of the object in front because of the angles involved - not hypersonic speeds with zero sonic boom or any of that stuff.
This discussion has unfortunately descended into the same kind we have with folks who claim they can hear 3rd harmonic distortion at -110 dB but refuse to accept a DB test challenge ('comon, DB tests are not a valid way to listen for this stuff!')
Again, show me the hard evidence - a dead alien, a piece of wreckage etc. There are 2 billion mobiles on the planet with decent camera's - I'm all eyes and ears.
Peace
😉
We should spend our resources on not to destroy our precious planet, it seems it's a rare gem.
My stomach often turns when I hear about spices extinction, planet heating etc.
My stomach often turns when I hear about spices extinction, planet heating etc.
Freudian slip? Odd sights aren't confined to night skies? Sloppy writing? I didn't know what to really make of it.