What are you talking about.....? this is so far out of context it's in another universe...........
I apologize. It’s only the first page of most recent results that exhibit combativeness. Still, what gives?
Ever notice how people get indignant when you keep your distance to avoid their tobacco smoke or diesel fumes? They glance over, notice, and get a cross look on their face, then let out a big hard puff.
You should stop talking about yourself and your own believes and claim all has been proven.
You're like the guy from far away to claim these are all hoaxes and other people are crazy.
You should stop claiming you're the know all and only straight thinking educated guy on the net, or smarter than the guys that tell the stories, seen what they saw and went where they went.
It's a funny side show though. Thanks for that.
Brinkman, I appreciated your support earlier. I did. But there is already a huge stigma on people who attempt to discuss UFO phenomena. So I find it not conducive to rational discussion when people who are also interested in it make VERY speculative suggestions. I never said you are one of them. But I think over acceptance of purely speculative ideas gives ammunition to irrational UFO sceptics so they can attack all of us with impunity.
This is the best statement on the subject on this thread so far.
Perhaps we are too stuck in our ways on this subject - some believe others don’t. Anyway, let’s hope we get some definitive answers in the coming months.
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If I were a gambler I'd stick all my chips on nothing new... Certainly not alien.
But, never say never - that's bad science!
I think "belief" is on one side only. If some real evidence turns up - fine. It would be great actually!
However - prior to the last years, instead of aliens and UFOs, people saw things like angels and demons... And were just as convinced of their reality.
But, again, I'd be front of the queue to say hi to real interstellar visitors, and hoping for a hitch hike across the galaxy!
But, never say never - that's bad science!
I think "belief" is on one side only. If some real evidence turns up - fine. It would be great actually!
However - prior to the last years, instead of aliens and UFOs, people saw things like angels and demons... And were just as convinced of their reality.
But, again, I'd be front of the queue to say hi to real interstellar visitors, and hoping for a hitch hike across the galaxy!
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I wouldn’t be so eager to be at the front of the queue based on those reports of invasive encounters etc.
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I understand your concern and used to feel this exact same way. For me, it was the continual arguing with skeptics that eventually disabused me of this concern. For a lot of so-called skeptics the whole skeptical posture is really just an affectation where whatever it is they are arguing against is patent BS because if it wasn’t, they’d be the first to know about it. In debates with skeptics like this, they are clearly just working backwards from this foregone conclusion which is why they rarely deal in specifics and instead cut-and-paste skeptical boilerplate.
For the skeptics who actually argue in good faith and are willing to debate the actual claims in a substantive way, the purely speculative stuff always comes to the fore eventually. In the case of Jacques Vallee, this stuff is unavoidable but his current scientific work is too important for him to not be spoken of. The “actually us time traveling from the future” stuff is commonly brought up; I think it’s harmless and best to get out of the way early on. Besides, Christopher Columbus’ Unidentified Submersible Object (USO) sighting is... well, nevermind.
Anyway, just my POV.
There are people who are guilty of so being ready to believe one way or another. Neither are interest in the truth but only in their own vanities. And in the name of science, one can claim superiority but sometimes the emperor has no clothes.
Believing in conspiracy ... well it's kind of out there beyond Pluto.
Believing in conspiracy ... well it's kind of out there beyond Pluto.
The orb I saw that night - I determine it was unmanned in my human way of thinking.
Being only maybe 8 feet in diameter with no lights, no windows, etc.
I suspect it was perhaps a probe of some sort, like our own devices that we send to other planets.
And the way it instantly shot straight up to dissapear... makes me conclude the probe theory.
What I'd like to see are those aliens though... now THAT would make my day!
Being only maybe 8 feet in diameter with no lights, no windows, etc.
I suspect it was perhaps a probe of some sort, like our own devices that we send to other planets.
And the way it instantly shot straight up to dissapear... makes me conclude the probe theory.
What I'd like to see are those aliens though... now THAT would make my day!
If the aliens dont want to get spotted they would be much more clever about it than following aircraft.