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Yes, of course, since there isn't much pinpoint imaging to be had in a concert hall it's natural that you would not care much about imaging. But those who are familiar with the strong imaging that can be achieved in a studio, this tradeoff is not acceptable to us. This is precisely my point about biases due to musical preference.
What you want to achieve, the "I am there" result is not likely to ever happen with two channel since this setup can never recreate the acoustics of a large hall. You will need multichannel to do that.
But the fact is that multichannel has never and likely will never "take-off." The music business is two channel, that is the medium and it does musical art with that in mind, which works extremely well for studio work. It is, I agree, a total failure at "I am there" - as you say "So no sacrifice for me."
Yes, of course, since there isn't much pinpoint imaging to be had in a concert hall it's natural that you would not care much about imaging. But those who are familiar with the strong imaging that can be achieved in a studio, this tradeoff is not acceptable to us. This is precisely my point about biases due to musical preference.
What you want to achieve, the "I am there" result is not likely to ever happen with two channel since this setup can never recreate the acoustics of a large hall. You will need multichannel to do that.
But the fact is that multichannel has never and likely will never "take-off." The music business is two channel, that is the medium and it does musical art with that in mind, which works extremely well for studio work. It is, I agree, a total failure at "I am there" - as you say "So no sacrifice for me."
Would you like the curves to be closer together or further apart? They are constant but I wanted to know if you want higher or lower DI?
Or, can you please draw your ideal DI curves?
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Or, can you please draw your ideal DI curves?
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This is exactly what the simulation predicted and that was what I wanted to achieve with this waveguide, so yes, I'm happy with that, but I could live with somewhat lower DI for sure. I'm not so sure about an even higher DI. This is around 10 dB where it's flat. I'm still not sure about an optimum, if there's any at all.
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"This is around 10 dB where it's flat."
What does this mean looking at the graph you posted above? I don't get it.
How do you use "flat" - can it be flat and at the same time, tilted?
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What does this mean looking at the graph you posted above? I don't get it.
How do you use "flat" - can it be flat and at the same time, tilted?
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What kind of DI would you aim for in a multichannel (immersive) environment? And would you differentiate between the LCR and the rest of the speakers in this regard?
BTW, I noticed a question somewhere on the previous pages why I do this in the first place. Well it's because I owned several loudspeakers with waveguides of similar properties in the past I and liked the sound very much - the better the waveguides the better it sounded. It simply works for me. I like the wide sweet spot, the unlimited dynamics and unprecedented neutrality and transparency of all sounds it reproduces. And you know what? For what it can do it's fairly cheap after all.
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Very briefly. The quality is there 🙂
Right now I'm building a machine for mould making - I decided to build a CNC "lathe" driven by Arduino + stepper motors and all that stuff. Quite fun.
Right now I'm building a machine for mould making - I decided to build a CNC "lathe" driven by Arduino + stepper motors and all that stuff. Quite fun.
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10", 12" and 18" OSWG. The latest 13" OS-SE sandhorn is better than any of them. I just wasn't able to get to this level of performance without the numerical design and simulation we have now. I also didn't fully appreciate how essential is the smoothness of the mouth termination, for any size.
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It's not useful to evaluate the difference of waveguides at listening position??
Please educate an idiot like me😉
Ok, but since we are bound to sit in a real room, we are in a steady state when we are listening! Where is the correlation what we measure in a different position/gating and what we hear??
No, that's not how your ears and brain work. It's not like a single microphone doing a steady-state RTA. That's the reason the loudspeakers must be measured separately, even if they are listened to in a room full of reflections in the end. And how an anechoic response of a good loudspeaker should look like we know for a very long time.
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I must say that I have had increased satisfying result re: fidelity as I have started to measure in listening position and EQed that to more linear. Now, I use low DI speakers, probable quite CD (haven't measured) - don't know if that "helps"..
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If that actually helps, the speakers must have been pretty bad if the first place, because all you can correct with the EQ at a (spatially averaged) listening position, are the defects of the loudspeakers related to radiated power and resonances.