I have tried to source 1” horn or waveguide but haven’t found none in production or sale. Also European source preffered.
Looking for B-52 PHRN-1014, QSC PL-000446-GP or similar 90° x 60° waveguide.
Best compromise that I have found is 18Sound XT1086 but prefer lower crossover point than ~1,5kHz so larger waveguide like QSC would be better.
Any ideas or solution to this?
Looking for B-52 PHRN-1014, QSC PL-000446-GP or similar 90° x 60° waveguide.
Best compromise that I have found is 18Sound XT1086 but prefer lower crossover point than ~1,5kHz so larger waveguide like QSC would be better.
Any ideas or solution to this?
The XT1086 can go lower than 1.5kHz, but radiating patterns widens, Troels Gravesen used around 1.3kHz xo point.
But if you want to go even lower, here is FaitalPro LTH102, although the coverage are narrower than the XT1086.
https://faitalpro.com/en/products/HF_Horns/product_details/index.php?id=903010110
But if you want to go even lower, here is FaitalPro LTH102, although the coverage are narrower than the XT1086.
https://faitalpro.com/en/products/HF_Horns/product_details/index.php?id=903010110
I have seen some use an XT1464 with a 1" driver and adapter... dunno the results and whether it was worth the effort... but something I may try one day if bored and come into some adapters.
Those B52 are great looking units and grabbed a few myself at an additional expense knowing they had extra value. Then again, the further away you are, the less value there is in shipping them.
Those B52 are great looking units and grabbed a few myself at an additional expense knowing they had extra value. Then again, the further away you are, the less value there is in shipping them.
The JBL clone is available from this dealer, its 90x60 degree, it has been used for an xo-point of 1.25 khz, sounds supposedly quite well but shows some rather vivid FR due to its nature as a diffraction device.
Dayton Audio H6512 Waveguide
I have not found the waveguide you are lookig for on the continent nor its islands.
Dayton Audio H6512 Waveguide
I have not found the waveguide you are lookig for on the continent nor its islands.
This may be a good horn in its range. They say 800Hz, but narrow is a mixed bag, maybe a little higher?
What is the standard amount of drop in throat resistance considered for assessing the usefulness of a horn at a particular frequency? If a 30% drop in Rt considered ok, then LTH102 appears fine to me at 800Hz.
It really seems that there is not so much waveguides or horns for 1” CD and Dayton H6512 was good pick up.
XT1086 is aluminium horn and build quality seems higher than others. Strength and build quality is higher than those plastic variants.
Intrested to pair that 1” CD and horn with 10” or 12” midrange so controlled radiating pattern would be prefferred to stay controlled to somewhere 1-1,4kHz.
Yuichi Arai A480 is also very intresting horn but price is somewhere between 500-1000€. It is still quite high on my list because there is so few reasonable priced horns.
XT1086 is aluminium horn and build quality seems higher than others. Strength and build quality is higher than those plastic variants.
Intrested to pair that 1” CD and horn with 10” or 12” midrange so controlled radiating pattern would be prefferred to stay controlled to somewhere 1-1,4kHz.
Yuichi Arai A480 is also very intresting horn but price is somewhere between 500-1000€. It is still quite high on my list because there is so few reasonable priced horns.
While it seems like finding a suitable guide is tricky, it does look like you're on the right path in looking at quality performers.
I was wrestling with various 2 way designs and came across a page where a cat showed some A480 horns and made mention of some drivers that played nice in them. It made me really want to pair one with a 12" and scrap the QSC clones... But time and all that means either a lengthy DIY or buy em. I inquired last week with a builder and it was $600 euro for a pair of A480 finished with adaptors. Not that bad. Not great but not bad. Takes a lot of the hard work out of it.
If I had to buy waveguides over again, I don't know which I would choose. Heck I even started to look at the H290B that looks like the Pi4 guide as something to try down the road.
I was wrestling with various 2 way designs and came across a page where a cat showed some A480 horns and made mention of some drivers that played nice in them. It made me really want to pair one with a 12" and scrap the QSC clones... But time and all that means either a lengthy DIY or buy em. I inquired last week with a builder and it was $600 euro for a pair of A480 finished with adaptors. Not that bad. Not great but not bad. Takes a lot of the hard work out of it.
If I had to buy waveguides over again, I don't know which I would choose. Heck I even started to look at the H290B that looks like the Pi4 guide as something to try down the road.
As a horn, avoid going near 500Hz. Cutoff is related to the flare, not the lowest usable frequency.
As a waveguide, the points of concern are different again. There is a reason that the angles are 'nominal'. The smaller dimension is a wavelength at 2kHz. There are no plots in the datasheet upon which to surmise more.
The OP wanted something lower than 1.5k but didn't really specify by how much.
Personally I'd stay an octave above the nominal lower cut off for any horn.
Besides there aren't many 1" drivers that go lower than 1.2-1.5k anyway except may be that one BMS driver which I think does 900Hz according to the manufacturer.
Personally I'd stay an octave above the nominal lower cut off for any horn.
Besides there aren't many 1" drivers that go lower than 1.2-1.5k anyway except may be that one BMS driver which I think does 900Hz according to the manufacturer.
HIello
large scale waveguide in Europe is hard to get ...
The Dayton 6512 was allready mentioned.
Did you take a look at the Limmer Horn ?
Limmerhorns - Ubersicht
These show a very nice directivity and work with several drivers very fine.
THe 021 might bei a little small, take a look at 022 or the 496 für 1.4" Mount.
My personal favorit ist the Visaton HT-21. I use it with Peerlees DFm2535. On first view, it looks like the RCF H100-typs and copys. But is shows a better directivity towords the highs. Goes down to 1.5kHz - maybe a little deeper with 44mm driver. Probably a little small for your purpous ?
large scale waveguide in Europe is hard to get ...
The Dayton 6512 was allready mentioned.
Did you take a look at the Limmer Horn ?
Limmerhorns - Ubersicht
These show a very nice directivity and work with several drivers very fine.
THe 021 might bei a little small, take a look at 022 or the 496 für 1.4" Mount.
My personal favorit ist the Visaton HT-21. I use it with Peerlees DFm2535. On first view, it looks like the RCF H100-typs and copys. But is shows a better directivity towords the highs. Goes down to 1.5kHz - maybe a little deeper with 44mm driver. Probably a little small for your purpous ?