there's really no other possible way to connect the sub board 4x2 to the 5x2 beside the "right one". they can fit only in one way 😉
That’s not a correct statement, if you wish I can send you pictures of how to get it wrong and right
That’s not a correct statement, if you wish I can send you pictures of how to get it wrong and right
please, post it... and... don't get me wrong... i am genuinely curious how you managed to do that... i just can't on mine... and maybe i have done something not correctly 🙂
nothing blowed up... but maybe was just luck 🙂
please, post it... and... don't get me wrong... i am genuinely curious how you managed to do that... i just can't on mine... and maybe i have done something not correctly 🙂
nothing blowed up... but maybe was just luck 🙂
4x2 closest to pcb edge is correct
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That was possible just because you have grinded too much on the side of the sub pcb.
If you stay inside the silk-screened line the board would hit and don't let you shift to the outmost position.
Nonetheless... Good to know
If you stay inside the silk-screened line the board would hit and don't let you shift to the outmost position.
Nonetheless... Good to know
The left / right read PCB were upgraded to bring to the sub board fully balanced signals that the current sub board reused from the UGS AI design is not supporting.
So it means that you should not connect P15 pin 1&2 on the left read board and P15 pin 9&10 on the right read board.
Also to work well the relay of the sub board has to be mounted on the other side of the PCB, please check Paul M post that explains this.
The right picture posted by Stones is the correct one, the PCB cutout was done a bit too large to allow the left connection (this one should be normally impossible).
So it means that you should not connect P15 pin 1&2 on the left read board and P15 pin 9&10 on the right read board.
Also to work well the relay of the sub board has to be mounted on the other side of the PCB, please check Paul M post that explains this.
The right picture posted by Stones is the correct one, the PCB cutout was done a bit too large to allow the left connection (this one should be normally impossible).
Quick question for Alex.
the dual encoder version will be totally operable without the use of the button... is that right ?
their function will be kept intact, or the access of the functions via the pushbutton will be disabled for good?
thanks
That should be the case indeed, once using the FW for the dual encoder, all the 6 buttons will become useless.
However I am struggling to have this dual encoder working for some reasons that I don't explain yet and being busy elsewhere I don't have the time to dig in it.
Strange as it works well on my DAC...
So I may give up here and provide only the 6 buttons + one encoder as expected from the original design.
To be confirmed soon.
So I may give up here and provide only the 6 buttons + one encoder as expected from the original design.
To be confirmed soon.
That’s really bad news for me Alex as I have my front panel already with two encoders
Also for clarity the sub board relay on my pictures a few posts back is on the correct side of the board or not
Yes I understand but this dual encoder is not part of the original design, it is just a bonus if I can, so please hold on / do not design anything before the system is ready. It make sense to wait for this to work before starting to design a panel.
If I can make it, I will but so far I am failing and being very busy elsewhere I cannot spend the time needed on this.
If I can make it, I will but so far I am failing and being very busy elsewhere I cannot spend the time needed on this.
... Also to work well the relay of the sub board has to be mounted on the other side of the PCB, please check Paul M post that explains this.
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Yes I understand but this dual encoder is not part of the original design, it is just a bonus if I can, so please hold on / do not design anything before the system is ready. It make sense to wait for this to work before starting to design a panel.
If I can make it, I will but so far I am failing and being very busy elsewhere I cannot spend the time needed on this.
Alex, i am currently rewriting the firmware for my own needs.
Yours is very good, but lacks some feature that I don't even dare to ask for an implementation 😱
I have driver working for almost every peripheral.
dual OLED and dual Encoder is already up and running.
muse's SPI comms are rock solid.Just need to trace back the relays routing and test the max driver's more thoroughly.
I perfectly understand your availability in maintaining or adding feature to the code...
In respect of your original intentions I will never release the firmware under open license... but surelyIi am having more time to keep maintained, and, as it is borning from zero, if anybody has requests, maybe now is the right time, otherwise in the future I will easily find myself in a situation similar to the Alex one.
I hope you (and anybody else...) sees that as a tribute / contribution rather than a takeover or some sort of aggressive statement.
And also, if anybody has the willing to do some pixel-art graphics would be great.
If you don't find a way to deliver it, maybe i will... but not in the short-time (for sure...) 😉
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Alex, i am currently rewriting the firmware for my own needs.
I hope you (and anybody else...) sees that as a tribute / contribution rather than a takeover or some sort of aggressive statement.
And also, if anybody has the willing to do some pixel-art graphics would be great.
If you don't find a way to deliver it, maybe i will... but not in the short-time (for sure...) 😉
I have dropped few ideas around new UI some time ago which may enhance visibility from the distance:
https://www.diyaudio.com/forums/pass-labs/277355-ugs-muse-preamp-gb-36.html#post5353092
Maybe this can be your starting point?
Interesting approach vs the usual plain round solutions. I just noticed you have accommodated the six switch’s and dual encoders, that’s got me curious as to if you’re planning to use both for mostly the same functions or have something (maybe multi channel) in mind
Interesting approach vs the usual plain round solutions. I just noticed you have accommodated the six switch’s and dual encoders, that’s got me curious as to if you’re planning to use both for mostly the same functions or have something (maybe multi channel) in mind
the panel was modded upon the standard hifi2000 face plate, is a testbed for the milling, soon or later, i will mill from a solid piece a new faceplate, maybe 15mm rather than 10mm. But thoose are details.
The knob is rather inspired from the knob i have used for years over API consoles, i guess their design sticked to me 🙂
At any rate, i would rather keep both solution, dual encoder for selection/navigation and button for fast recall useful function.
for example to trigger an immediate bypass, or switch between bal/unbal.
Really i am not closing any possibility... so i have kept everything 🙂
worst case scenario i will duplicate function to both encoder and button.
Thanks, I was not aware to put it on the side that is opposite the silk screen (for the relay version at least) so then I got it correct by accident 😀
Alex, i am currently rewriting the firmware for my own needs.
Yours is very good, but lacks some feature that I don't even dare to ask for an implementation 😱
I have driver working for almost every peripheral.
dual OLED and dual Encoder is already up and running.
muse's SPI comms are rock solid.Just need to trace back the relays routing and test the max driver's more thoroughly.
I perfectly understand your availability in maintaining or adding feature to the code...
In respect of your original intentions I will never release the firmware under open license... but surelyIi am having more time to keep maintained, and, as it is borning from zero, if anybody has requests, maybe now is the right time, otherwise in the future I will easily find myself in a situation similar to the Alex one.
I hope you (and anybody else...) sees that as a tribute / contribution rather than a takeover or some sort of aggressive statement.
And also, if anybody has the willing to do some pixel-art graphics would be great.
If you don't find a way to deliver it, maybe i will... but not in the short-time (for sure...) 😉
You are free to create your own FW version if you want to. I'd like just to understand what you think is missing and that you want to add in your own version.
Recently I was adding several new things according to Paul M feedback and I think he was pretty happy to see what he requested to be added here (trigger latch, bypass preamp off, new stepping & rotation configuration menu for the encoder + lots of small bugs solved, thanks to him again BTW).
Dual encoder in the next step, it is working well on my DAC so should work here too when I will have the time to properly debug it.
Does it means that you don't need me as you requested by email to add the module gain adjustment in the configuration menu as you will add it in your version?
the panel was modded upon the standard hifi2000 face plate, is a testbed for the milling, soon or later, i will mill from a solid piece a new faceplate, maybe 15mm rather than 10mm. But thoose are details.
The knob is rather inspired from the knob i have used for years over API consoles, i guess their design sticked to me 🙂
At any rate, i would rather keep both solution, dual encoder for selection/navigation and button for fast recall useful function.
for example to trigger an immediate bypass, or switch between bal/unbal.
Really i am not closing any possibility... so i have kept everything 🙂
worst case scenario i will duplicate function to both encoder and button.
All the shortcuts you highlight here are already supported in the FW I am releasing.
Nice to know !
... I have started my handevour for two main purposes :
1. to better refine my code writing skill
2. to be able in future to manage the feature as my own please
Beside that, you have made clear more than one time that new feature development will be suspended/interrupted (pun intended) and you will only bugfix the current feature set.
I have not a clear idea on what direction I will take, but i want to experiment and be in control 🙂
The request about the "tunable" gain setting for refining the gain i have requested... please, implement it only if that make sense also to you and only if you think can be a nice addition to the current firmware.
If you are doing that only for me, and just for me, then, spare your time and go ahead with the release of the firmware without that. I was thinking that can be a good thing to have for everybody, but maybe i was wrong.
Just that.
... I have started my handevour for two main purposes :
1. to better refine my code writing skill
2. to be able in future to manage the feature as my own please
Beside that, you have made clear more than one time that new feature development will be suspended/interrupted (pun intended) and you will only bugfix the current feature set.
I have not a clear idea on what direction I will take, but i want to experiment and be in control 🙂
The request about the "tunable" gain setting for refining the gain i have requested... please, implement it only if that make sense also to you and only if you think can be a nice addition to the current firmware.
If you are doing that only for me, and just for me, then, spare your time and go ahead with the release of the firmware without that. I was thinking that can be a good thing to have for everybody, but maybe i was wrong.
Just that.
hi guys, I had to update the price of the components GB.
It makes a small difference for most of us.
Don't pay the different now, I will add that to the shipping fees.
payment done 😉
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