Musical Fidelity X-A50 monoblock amp Circuit

Sorry took a while as I had to find the part and also nearly forgot about pin orientation!
 

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You have allready measured V8 1.2mV, it should about that or few mV more.
When you change VAS transistors bias is influenced so better measure V8.


Take it under control 20 min. until temperature stabilise.


Am I see that good that c5 is also changed? If so, we are not sure which one makes problem.
 
You have allready measured V8 1.2mV, it should about that or few mV more.
When you change VAS transistors bias is influenced so better measure V8.


Take it under control 20 min. until temperature stabilise.


Am I see that good that c5 is also changed? If so, we are not sure which one makes problem.

HI,

I will change C5 back but I dont believe that was the problem!

I will measure V8 and post result in a bit.
 
OK I put the bipolar C5 back and it seemed to lower the DC even more.

I tested it for slightly longer and the DC went from 3MV to around 7MV and rising.

The V8 resistor was also climbing from 0 to around 5MV.

I then shut it down to check for heat, smoke etc and TR6 and TR8 was very hot!!
 
The resistor R10(47 ohm) control TR6 and TR8 running current(21mA) and it is quite high for the transistors needed.

TR6 and TR8 running half current 10mA is sufficient for them to perform same sounding of the original amp, the temperature will be lower, safe and more stable.

To do that, replace R10 by a 68 ohm resistor.

Hi Patrick,

I may have one of those! Get back to you in a bit 🙂
 
R10 is stated as 4R7 which is 4.7 ohms, but it measured 47 ohms! How did you know that!?!?

OK so I replaced it and it still gets hot much not as much as before and not as quick. Tested the DC... it went from 5MV to around 15MV and stayed around there.

I also measured the bias R24, this was around 2MV

I also noticed if I keep my finger on TR8 the DC would drop to 2-3MV.
 
R10 is stated as 4R7 which is 4.7 ohms, but it measured 47 ohms! How did you know that!?!?

OK so I replaced it and it still gets hot much not as much as before and not as quick. Tested the DC... it went from 5MV to around 15MV and stayed around there.

I also measured the bias R24, this was around 2MV

I also noticed if I keep my finger on TR8 the DC would drop to 2-3MV.

The schematic showed R10 47R (you can check in #54)

With 10mA current is also a little high for these transistors(in normal amp design, they are only run at 3mA to 5mA), so that they are still hot, but you would not want to shift too much from factory design, so that let it run in 10mA.

When these transistors heating up, the circuit voltages will shift until the transistors temperature stable, after that you set the bias and it is ok for your amp.
 
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I just heard some music from it for the first time in nearly 2 years!!

Patrick you are a genius! That was not a simple fix and I would have never been able to fix it without your help!!

Its seems a common problem so I'm sure others will benefit too!