May-I answer at the place of Simon ?
Every sound engineer understands instantly this sentence. We often qualify some studios as "Magic rooms". It is a combination of several things, acoustic, electronic, mics, atmosphere, that mysteriously help to create better recorded music.
Working, kinda blind despite all the little knowledge we can have, behind a mixing desk, is an attempt to find some sort of truth. It is complicated. As if we were, in photography, trying to find the perfect focus on an instrument, which will lose its focus when on another instrument will be in focus.
The goal being to produce a nice and believable landscape. Probably the same thing you are looking for when trying to bring life to an audio system.
The 'magic tricks' are all those methods we had found, with time, as "working" to re-use a sentence of J.C. We all have our owns.
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Sure, I think Ed dropped a hint about phase eq which would be unique to each installation but maybe broadly transportable to other installations.....Ed ?.
Sure, amplitude eq and phase eq are one set of parameters to get right, my approach is totally different and interestingly/usefully phase and amplitude errors become much less obnoxious when the system excess noise is rendered innocuous or rendered tuneful.
Phase EQ is for long throw systems and requires precise calibration for expected usage weather conditions.
If you want to explore the magic stuff, start with does a viola sound different from a violin and how does distance affect that?
If you want to explore the magic stuff, start with does a viola sound different from a violin and how does distance affect that?
This is good advice and certainly the minimum. Even following this course, the other party may (will in my case) decide to violate the agreement. Then it becomes a war of who has the most money to spend on lawyers that often determines the outcome. As I was an individual I lost because I couldn't afford the litigation against a large company. I couldn't even afford to litigate a temporary restraint of sale judgement pending trial. I'm afraid in many (most?) cases justice is awarded to the richer party...
My philosophy now is crank things to market and immediately start working on the next one. You know someone is going to copy it and blast yours out of the market at a lower cost, and litigation is a waste of time. JC3s for $500 anyone? Sorry John...
Happy Thanksgiving, all you US DIYer's!
Howie
I have witnessed the opposite on a massive scale due to poor work by a patent examiner.
Just what the man said....when looking for the magic at home treat it as if it were your own private venue/recording studio......manipulation until the sound complies.
I suppose the disconnect is where/when the sound technician becomes artist, it then becomes your own interpretation.....some are better than others 😀
Well, I failed to see the connection between a sound engineer creating a recording/mix and Dan throwing goop at things, and you haven't enlightened me at all about how what you do is similar, unless it's all explained by the word magic.
I suppose its all part of the mystique of life.
I find it refreshing that wonderments still exist.....I suppose that is unless your gonna tell me that we’ve reached full knowledge capacity?
I really doubt that though.
I find it refreshing that wonderments still exist.....I suppose that is unless your gonna tell me that we’ve reached full knowledge capacity?
I really doubt that though.
I’ve said it I don’t know how many times.....I really know not what I do, just that I get some pretty decent results doing it. It definately has to do with phase relationships.
Anytime I go into detail it’s dismissed as BS.....so why bother anymore?
I understand the one liner vagueness now.
Anytime I go into detail it’s dismissed as BS.....so why bother anymore?
I understand the one liner vagueness now.
I still don't know what you meant by this? 😕 As far as I know (you may know different having recorded and mixed) you can't manipulate a reproduction system in the same was as a production system, you can equalise, process it as a whole but that's all unless I'm missing something?
It’s the mindset......I suppose it’s the feel of the music that’s most important to me, from what I gather more so than faithful measurements.
Lawyer-ing up
In medicine, NDA's are the de facto standard. Luckily, b4 my wife split off from her multi physician practice in 2001 to "go it alone", with me managing we had her NDA requirement dismissed, since, at the time here in Kentucky, NDA's in medicine were declared anti-competitive.
Her ex partner tried everything in the book to sabotage our practice, to her own detriment (healthwise). Later in the early 2000's, KY reinstated the legality of NDA's so we dodged that bullet, as her NDA would have prevented competition within 100 miles for 10 years.
So sometimes, lawyers are completely useless.
We've been retired now for 6 years, so most of this crap is moot. Making more in the market now than I ever did in medicine. Go figure...
In medicine, NDA's are the de facto standard. Luckily, b4 my wife split off from her multi physician practice in 2001 to "go it alone", with me managing we had her NDA requirement dismissed, since, at the time here in Kentucky, NDA's in medicine were declared anti-competitive.
Her ex partner tried everything in the book to sabotage our practice, to her own detriment (healthwise). Later in the early 2000's, KY reinstated the legality of NDA's so we dodged that bullet, as her NDA would have prevented competition within 100 miles for 10 years.
So sometimes, lawyers are completely useless.
We've been retired now for 6 years, so most of this crap is moot. Making more in the market now than I ever did in medicine. Go figure...
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