John Curl's Blowtorch preamplifier part III

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Clean connections are very important with quality audio playback. Cramolin is one of the best contact cleaners on the planet. Relatively heavy Gold on Gold is the best way to keep 'micro-diodes' or whatever you want to call them, from developing.

All of my electronics have gold plated contacts. Every three months I unplug and wipe everything down with naphtha and replug - makes a huge difference in sound. My rig is driven throughout by batteries, I have two sets and when one starts to falter, the other gets swopped in - again, a huge difference in sound. If it is too hot or cold, or too dry or humid, the sound suffers. I have good and bad days, and so does my rig. Whether either can be, or even wants to be measured is debatable.
 
So what do EE do? They measure the damn wire by itself and proclaim nothing there... small Rs. Cannot have any affect on the sound. If I stick a series Resistor in the speaker line(s) and the bass or other freq response areas sound affected..... what do the EE do? They take the resistor and measure it and claim it cannot do anything like what we heard.

This is a serious pack of lies and you must know it. I can find the only explanation - a kind of promotion of your own, business related approach.

What EE would do and does is that he measures with the cable or the resistor (your note above) inserted and sees the effect on the frequency or step response, whichever is of interest, and measures it both on electrical and acustical side. On contrary, the promoter like you and many others never shows any meaningful results and continues in word based ill concept comments and theories round and round, even if they have been proven wrong. Yes, I am insulting, however there is no other way.

BTW - what is your education? Same question for JR and other promoters. Yes I am an EE, graduated in electro-acoustics.
 
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Take any part of an impedance plot, at any frequency, the impedance above the Re value (the DC resistance of the voice coil) is the back-EMF impedance.

So if you know the Re = 6 Ohm and the impedance plot says 15 Ohm @ 1KHz, then you know that the back-EMF impedance @ 1KHz is 15-6 = 9 Ohm. [/B]

Joe, this is fundamentally wrong. Above enclosure resonance, the rise in impedance is caused by voice coil inductance, mainly.

Why do you continue to make this mistake, even after having been corrected?
 
This is a serious pack of lies and you must know it. I can find the only explanation - a kind of promotion of your own, business related approach....

BTW - what is your education? Same question for JR and other promoters. Yes I am an EE, graduated in electro-acoustics.

That is getting really nasty.

PMA, you are being professionally rude to someone who has at least as much experience as you, similar training, and has actually made successful audio products, unlike you.

It is a sin to make a living? You are especially not allowed to make money doing something you enjoy? Accused of having ulterior motives? Is it jealousy?

The fact that my Dad recorded The Beatles live in 1964, does that equate having an EE degree? Oh, I forgot, he had THREE!
 
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When we went from tube PAmps to SS, we noticed, by listening, that the bass was deeper, tighter, more accurate. Same effect occured when we used very thin speaker wires compared to thick (large AWG). Larger affected the bass ... deeper,louder etal.

Tighter, more acurate, yes. Deeper, louder, no.

It may be counter intuitive, but increasing loudspeaker Q leads to a bumped bass. Looking around on the web I found this by means of illustration A Guide To Better Bass (TAS 197) | The Absolute Sound.

Go to "Sidebar: system "Q"".

Note: perhaps I should also explain that a switch to tube amplification or thin wire decreases damping factor and therefore increases system Q.

Joe, I expect an answer. Do you really believe that all impedance above Re is caused by back EMF?

-quote- The fact that my Dad recorded The Beatles live in 1964, does that equate having an EE degree? Oh, I forgot, he had THREE! -quote-

It is of course completely irrelevant what your father accomplished in his life time, but since you bring it up yourself in the context of your motivation to post the way you do, I must acknowledge that striving for the acceptance of genuine E.E.'s might be a more powerfull motivator than profit. I don't know and I don't care. It ain't working btw.

What I care about is that you don't respond to any real argument in a cogent and coherent way.
 
Believe it or not, I have been following this thread for the last 1500 pages, and now I am confused - very confused as to who is right or who is wrong.

OK, why don’t you EE naysayers take it upon yourselves to prove by practical experimentation that your protagonists are in fact right?

Go ahead, buy some of Dan’s goop, buy some of Joe’s gubbins, and get to work!

Because in the end, it is punters like me who part ways with their hard earned cash for stuff you people create!

And I am not gullible!
 
PMA, you are being professionally rude to someone who has at least as much experience as you, similar training, and has actually made successful audio products, unlike you.
Mr. Curl, if you were many times unprofessionally rude to PMA or many others who have at least as much (or more..) knowledge, education and experience as you, much more experience with real EE development (not still sticking with knowledges and "arguments" from 70’s), based on facts and they have actually made successful (non audio, but sophisticated electronics) products for companies over the world, is it OK?? Or "quod licet Iovi, non licet bovi"??:confused:
 
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Tighter, more accurate, yes. Deeper, louder, no.

It may be counter intuitive, but increasing loudspeaker Q leads to a bumped bass. Looking around on the web I found this by means of illustration A Guide To Better Bass (TAS 197) | The Absolute Sound.

Go to "Sidebar: system "Q"".

Note: perhaps I should also explain that a switch to tube amplification or thin wire decreases damping factor and therefore increases system Q.

Yes, I know. I was referring to SS vs tube and SS generally had lower F-3 without BW limited OP transformer. But I mixed these two issues. THx for clarifying my brief comment.

-RNM

I see, it’s only nasty when questioned by an EE. It’s not nasty to label them all as closed-minded fools.
Where did this added word come from?

-RNM
 
Frequency response with 6m speaker cable

So this is what the ignorant EE like me would do to show the electrical amplitude and phase response of the whole audio chain, including preamp and power amp, cables and speaker, measured with 6m of 2x4mm2 speaker litz wire cable at the input terminals of the speaker box.

I am expecting to see similar measurements by JR, RNM and JC, instead of stylistic word essays.
 

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So this is what the ignorant EE like me would do to show the electrical amplitude and phase response of the whole audio chain, including preamp and power amp, cables and speaker, measured with 6m of 2x4mm2 speaker litz wire cable at the input terminals of the speaker box.

I am expecting to see similar measurements by JR, RNM and JC, instead of stylistic word essays.
Ummm. So what?

Measure the group delay instead. More insightful.

-RNM
 
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