Hello
Class D Audio Using the PE29102 driver IC
here reference design
https://www.psemi.com/pdf/app_notes/an72.pdf
Class-D Audio Amplifiers
GaN FETs Devices for audio applications. coming in the market.
GaN FETs are preferred as the switching devices because they offer significant advantages over
MOSFETs. Because GaN FETs are faster, smaller and do not have a body diode, they have fewer switching
losses versus conduction losses, resulting in superior linearity and efficiency
Does somebody already have expereince ?
Class D Audio Using the PE29102 driver IC
here reference design
https://www.psemi.com/pdf/app_notes/an72.pdf
Class-D Audio Amplifiers
GaN FETs Devices for audio applications. coming in the market.
GaN FETs are preferred as the switching devices because they offer significant advantages over
MOSFETs. Because GaN FETs are faster, smaller and do not have a body diode, they have fewer switching
losses versus conduction losses, resulting in superior linearity and efficiency
Does somebody already have expereince ?
Nobody interested to start wit new device tecnology GAN-Fets ?
GAN FETS will replace silicon Mosfet in Class D and many mosfet switching circuits
class D amp will have 99 - 100 % efficiency,
no need additional heatsink anymore
GAN FETS will replace silicon Mosfet in Class D and many mosfet switching circuits
class D amp will have 99 - 100 % efficiency,
no need additional heatsink anymore
I did listen to a prototype GaN class D amp, really good sounding. Bested any other cheapo class D amps I own.
However, quality comes at a price.
However, quality comes at a price.
I did listen to a prototype GaN class D amp, really good sounding. Bested any other cheapo class D amps I own.
However, quality comes at a price.
which prototype ? manufacturer ,...where to order ?
can you give me more information ?
I also read some about Germanium MOSFETs, but no one I saw at my surround. Perhaps in 20 years we see them in practical uses.
which prototype ? manufacturer ,...where to order ?
can you give me more information ?
Soundigital, a brazilian manufacturer. It was a state of the art limited edition car amplifier.
I don't think they are available anymore, perhaps you can find one used online, I've seen an north american guy on DIYMA using it.
You can try with this evaluation board but it’s very expensive for what it is.
EPC9106 EPC | Development Boards, Kits, Programmers | DigiKey
The Gerber files are available from the above digikey link.
EPC9106 EPC | Development Boards, Kits, Programmers | DigiKey
The Gerber files are available from the above digikey link.
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The trick with GaNs is that they are a lot harder to place on a circuit board. You can put together surface mount stuff pretty easily with a normal soldering station but all the GaN transistors I've seen require that you flow the solder to make connections to them.
Have you seen the TO-247 offerings from Transphorm? They look fairly routine to apply -- from a mechanical standpoint, at least.
DigiKey stocks several p/n's in the $9 - $14 USD range, 650 Volt, 30 Amp for one.
Driving and snubbing them properly looks like it could be a little tricky, but probably not as bad as SiC. Definitely read all the mfg's App Notes you can get your hands on.
Regards,
Rick
DigiKey stocks several p/n's in the $9 - $14 USD range, 650 Volt, 30 Amp for one.
Driving and snubbing them properly looks like it could be a little tricky, but probably not as bad as SiC. Definitely read all the mfg's App Notes you can get your hands on.
Regards,
Rick
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Have you seen the TO-247 offerings from Transphorm? They look fairly routine to apply -- from a mechanical standpoint, at least.
DigiKey stocks several p/n's in the $9 - $14 USD range, 650 Volt, 30 Amp for one.
Driving and snubbing them properly looks like it could be a little tricky, but probably not as bad as SiC. Definitely read all the mfg's App Notes you can get your hands on.
Regards,
Rick
TO247 Gans for Class D design..... High Power Gan Fets have Qg 18 thats very good, this beat many mosfets
I think with GAN Fets, Class D have 99 % efficiency
amp will running very cool and need only small haetsink
Technics using in NEW High END amps Gan Fets
I think improvement THD and Sound, with Gan Fets
because Dead Time 5ns is possibile , impossibile with mosfets
Psemi driver IC offer 5ns dead time with Gan Fets
I never have test it, but I think its time to try
we can take fullbridge proven Class D DIY design and move to GAN,, lets try what happened
I never have test it, but I think its time to try.
Good idea. Looking forward to your result. Please supply Gerber File and Circuit. My inductor is ATX. How to design 1mH?
The trick with GaNs is that they are a lot harder to place on a circuit board. You can put together surface mount stuff pretty easily with a normal soldering station but all the GaN transistors I've seen require that you flow the solder to make connections to them.
They are about the hardest devices to surface mount, perhaps worse than BGAs.
I bought a couple of EPC2903 modules for this reason as they have done the hard work and mounted a half-bridge and driver onto a 12mm x 12mm module for you (its still SMT though, just much easier to handle).
Here's my attempt to mount onto a test board:

They are about the hardest devices to surface mount, perhaps worse than BGAs.
I bought a couple of EPC2903 modules for this reason as they have done the hard work and mounted a half-bridge and driver onto a 12mm x 12mm module for you (its still SMT though, just much easier to handle).
Here's my attempt to mount onto a test board:![]()
EPC2903_GaNFET is toys, No ! better relax and use TPA3255 for Class D !
We talk about big power Class D, you get 99 % efficiency and 5 ns deadtime
TO-247 TP65H035WSQA 650V GanFET
Key Specifications
VDS (V) min 650
V(TR)DSS (V) max 800
RDS(on) (mΩ) max* 41
QRR (nC) typ 178
QG (nC) typ 24
I think we can upgrade existing big power DIY Class D circuits with GanFET
Fullbridge / Halfbridge, ....improve performance and decrease heat - 30 %
"ucd 25 watts to 1200 watts using 2 mosfets - diyAudio"
Have you seen the TO-247 offerings from Transphorm? They look fairly routine to apply -- from a mechanical standpoint, at least.
DigiKey stocks several p/n's in the $9 - $14 USD range, 650 Volt, 30 Amp for one.
Driving and snubbing them properly looks like it could be a little tricky, but probably not as bad as SiC. Definitely read all the mfg's App Notes you can get your hands on.
Regards,
Rick
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GaN FETs are preferred as the switching devices because they offer significant advantages over
MOSFETs. Because GaN FETs are faster, smaller and do not have a body diode, they have fewer switching
losses versus conduction losses, resulting in superior linearity and efficiency
Does somebody already have expereince ?
I don't think linearity matters in a class d amp as the GaN mosfet is in switch mode not linear mode.
I have experience with GaN systems parts for high frequency power conversion and can recommend them. You want to avoid conventional leaded or first generation surface mount packages for GaN as the loop inductance reduces switching speed and increases gate overshoot. Using the right gate drive its possible to switch in a few nS. There is a lot of subtle issues to work through to use these parts but here are a few pointers:
1) INTERSIL ISL55110IVZ is a good choice of gate driver
2) Use 4 layer or thin board to get lower loop inductance
3) Optimise via placement for lower inductance
4) Bottom side cooled parts are easier to use as top side parts will break if they are not flat on the board and then clamped with a heatsink.
5) Decoupling needs to be designed for low ground plane impedance to GHz frequencies
6) Instrumentation is very difficult due to very fast rise/fall
GaN Systems
1) INTERSIL ISL55110IVZ is a good choice of gate driver
2) Use 4 layer or thin board to get lower loop inductance
3) Optimise via placement for lower inductance
4) Bottom side cooled parts are easier to use as top side parts will break if they are not flat on the board and then clamped with a heatsink.
5) Decoupling needs to be designed for low ground plane impedance to GHz frequencies
6) Instrumentation is very difficult due to very fast rise/fall
GaN Systems
So, from your experience, the conventional pkgs, TO-220, TO-247, just have parasitics that are too high to achieve the full potential of GaN parts?
Thanks,
Rick
Thanks,
Rick
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So, from your experience, the conventional pkgs, TO-220, TO-247, just have parasitics that are too high to achieve the full potential of GaN parts?
Thanks,
Rick
Yes you can not achieve high switching speeds as there is too much overshoot (at the die) due to the lead inductance. This causes premature failure of the device. If you needed to use very high speed gate drive you give up on square waves and use sine wave drive.
Yes you can not achieve high switching speeds as there is too much overshoot (at the die) due to the lead inductance. This causes premature failure of the device. If you needed to use very high speed gate drive you give up on square waves and use sine wave drive.
want use GaN TO247 for high power class D to replacing mosfets
not good news,
but Transphorm GaN Power FET Portfolio - Transphorm
offer 650V TO247 GaN for up to 3,5 KW
In this case, how is it possibile to drive TO247 GaN ?
Are you sure only sine wave drive will work with TO247 GaN ?
I have experience with GaN systems parts for high frequency power conversion and can recommend them.
1) INTERSIL ISL55110IVZ
GaN Systems
Im looking for 200V GaN Fet driver...psem29102i is not an option, can max 100 V
actually Im using IR2110 600V Mosfet driver to drive class D mosfets
is something similar available already for GaN ?
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