If they were playing "Happy Birthday" they would be looking at the score. Ms Hannigan is a fully qualified conductor. I am proud to say that she is from this neck of the woods, though of course her accomplishments do not reflect on me in any way. Just a bit of home team enthusiasm.
Hi John (Curl),
It usually takes a technician to take a design that works on paper and fix the design in real life so that it works as advertised. LMAO!
In my time I have invented a few things I felt were unique, and also designed many fixes in the field that were adopted by the manufacturer as modifications. However, I don't think I'm the only person that came up with those particular things either. I've also designed many small things that would add a function (or modify it's behavior) for end users. Never mind the test jigs and other troubleshooting test aids. I've even designed a few stand alone things that still work after many years. I'm sure I'm just one of a number of people here with a similar history. That means I am in no way unique. Many technicians have and are designing new things, or encorporating known circuits in new ways. You're surrounded by people who are known as technicians that are much more - just as many designers are only operating at some level of technician. There is no shortage of those folks, let me tell you! It's not cut and dried out there.
Try and give everyone the respect they are due whether they make it known or not that they do more than a job description might suggest.
-Respectfully, Chris
Is that all you got out of that post? I'm disappointed.
It usually takes a technician to take a design that works on paper and fix the design in real life so that it works as advertised. LMAO!
In my time I have invented a few things I felt were unique, and also designed many fixes in the field that were adopted by the manufacturer as modifications. However, I don't think I'm the only person that came up with those particular things either. I've also designed many small things that would add a function (or modify it's behavior) for end users. Never mind the test jigs and other troubleshooting test aids. I've even designed a few stand alone things that still work after many years. I'm sure I'm just one of a number of people here with a similar history. That means I am in no way unique. Many technicians have and are designing new things, or encorporating known circuits in new ways. You're surrounded by people who are known as technicians that are much more - just as many designers are only operating at some level of technician. There is no shortage of those folks, let me tell you! It's not cut and dried out there.
Try and give everyone the respect they are due whether they make it known or not that they do more than a job description might suggest.
-Respectfully, Chris
Chris, according to you, neither Southwest Technical or Great American Sound (GAS) could have made working circuits a few years later. Not my fault. I used MATCHED NPN pairs and MATCHED PNP pairs that were available at Ampex. All I had to do is get the betas reasonably close to make my first amp work in 1968. Both Scott Wurcer and Nelson Pass have been shown this early power amp from 1968, if you have any doubts.
Hi John,
I have seen implementations of your front end that were not executed well, and you probably know what they are. All I was really getting to was that you should show more respect to others around you, that's all. I think you would be surprised to find out what other folks have accomplished that have the label of "Technician". I was also careful to avoid placing myself at a higher station above my colleagues in the business. You could learn something from that that might make dealing with others a little easier. You can figure that out yourself.
-Chris
Not true. I don't even know where this came from.
I have seen implementations of your front end that were not executed well, and you probably know what they are. All I was really getting to was that you should show more respect to others around you, that's all. I think you would be surprised to find out what other folks have accomplished that have the label of "Technician". I was also careful to avoid placing myself at a higher station above my colleagues in the business. You could learn something from that that might make dealing with others a little easier. You can figure that out yourself.
-Chris
Hi John,
All kidding aside, I wouldn't expect your electronics package to fail yet.
-Chris
It's a Studer, of course it still works!
All kidding aside, I wouldn't expect your electronics package to fail yet.
-Chris
I completely understand what you are saying, and what you describe is the usual path for most musicians. A good player told me a long time ago that first you learn the mechanics of your instrument, until the chords/notes/etc become internalized, he used the term "autonomic", like your own heartbeat. Only when it becomes autonomic can you forget about the mechanics and start to think about the music. At that point when you think of a phrase your fingers/hands/feet know where to go.
However, having said all that, I have been intrigued for the last few years watching my daughter learn about music. She has shown talent and natural ability from the start, though I would not say her talent is extraordinary. She benefited greatly from a very good music teacher in her elementary school. But she has never focused on a single instrument. In school she played the usual recorder and ukelele, and a bit of violin one year, and flute for a bit (and taught other kids to play the flute). We put her in piano lessons for a while and she likes the instrument but didn't like the lessons or practice. She taught herself guitar by using online resources, and we convinced her to take guitar lessons for a month, which she liked because she learned things like how to hold the guitar properly, but she felt continuing lessons would ruin it for her. She took drum lessons for a couple of years, but when she started a band another girl played drums and Miranda played guitar. All through this she was writing songs and singing them, she wrote all the original songs for her band. Their bass player didn't really know what she was doing, so Miranda wrote out the bass tabs for all their songs for her. She still likes to knock out tunes on the piano, both covers and originals, and she recorded an album's worth of original tunes, on which she sang and played all instruments.
So she has develooed the music muscles, while never mastering any instrument. I know a dozen people who can play guitar better than her, but very few who can play a song better.
Wow. For about 12 thousand US dollars, I could buy some really amazing speakers that I can't find specs on.
Or, for a couple hundred, I might be able to build something that is as good or better. (Ya never know.)
Hmmm.
I'm kinda likin the diy route. Plus, I like diy.
Course, me (Jn), probably won't actually sell anything for money...but I must admit, I'm probably never going to detail how to physically build a voice coil with a sense coil interleaved, never going to even give the wire gauges, nor what vc former to use and why, never going to say how to connect to the amp, never gonna detail the e/m theory....
Which brings me to my point... If one is not here to diy, what would one be here for?
KSTR, thanks for your input, I do appreciate it.
Jn
@John & Scott,
I do understand your skepticism because mfgr claims without hard data "to prove it" will always ring our snake-oil alarm bells, often for good reasons. But this is business, not science. Only when companies use public funds for their research they'll have to disclose it, afaik. Otherwise they'll try to keep their technical secrets and data to themselves. Anybody working in comercial industry is affected by this, for example I sure do have some things (concepts and actual data) worth sharing with the DIY community but sadly I can't, this is company IP and even when it's years back that I quit a job I will never disclose internals because that's the deal... I may deviate from that only if the info/data really is obsolete, current state of the art anyway, etc.
One has to know there is quite a DIY MFB camp in european countries since Philips and Backes&Müller sort of started this in the 70'ies. Those companies I mentioned are based on solid engineering, old-school type, that's all I can say, plus I'm neither affiliated with them nor with any other speaker company at the moment (I've retired from speaker design and switched sides, now developping electronic musical instruments).
I do understand your skepticism because mfgr claims without hard data "to prove it" will always ring our snake-oil alarm bells, often for good reasons. But this is business, not science. Only when companies use public funds for their research they'll have to disclose it, afaik. Otherwise they'll try to keep their technical secrets and data to themselves. Anybody working in comercial industry is affected by this, for example I sure do have some things (concepts and actual data) worth sharing with the DIY community but sadly I can't, this is company IP and even when it's years back that I quit a job I will never disclose internals because that's the deal... I may deviate from that only if the info/data really is obsolete, current state of the art anyway, etc.
One has to know there is quite a DIY MFB camp in european countries since Philips and Backes&Müller sort of started this in the 70'ies. Those companies I mentioned are based on solid engineering, old-school type, that's all I can say, plus I'm neither affiliated with them nor with any other speaker company at the moment (I've retired from speaker design and switched sides, now developping electronic musical instruments).
Congrats! Please do everything you can to support her. It's alright to NOT to become the next Steve Vai, I don't like him anyway. 🙂
Is not it better then not to talk about it at all, if it is not possible to disclose? I know what you speak about, being in commercial research as well, but I would never go to discuss it at a public forum, not only for the reason of the signed NDA, but also for I want it not to become public. So, IMO, let us discuss what can be proven and not what is a part of NDA and cannot be thus disclosed.
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I used to own a Revox, and I never thought much of their electronics, at least the part related to audio. The Studer's, coming from the same family, are not any better. Check out the line amp below. More schematics here.
For the more critical parts, they do have their house's special secret encapsulated modules. Anyone cares to trace out the schematics? 🙂
All true, except it leaves you with a *very* expensive product with unsubstantiated performance claims. Buyer beware.
As JN says, his idea is do-able for DIY, could be very effective, so very appropriate for this forum! 🙂
Yes, but system current noise eq, not in any way like conventional Blaxandall type tone control or other eq.
Dan.
Please do. And why not - if you don't have any commercial interests anyway then you can help other diy-friends to get a god speaker. And you could claim credit. Mr Pass seem to sleep well doing partly this 🙂 Of course some commercial enterprise could steal your invention - but would you rather have it unknown to everyone but yourself? It's just a question - if you do I can understand it and respect it of course.
If you advertise it that is only usable for diy one can hope that if there indeed are commercial interest, that company would contact you for a license. There will probably be some that don't but there are still honest operations out there you know.
Maybe/probably I'm naive.
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Although i understand your concern, i think it´s still valuable input as it is some information about things already done in the past, different approaches with different degrees of success. Maybe there are different sources of information about those aproaches that can be shared to give a more complete picture.
The Backes & Müller KSTR mentioned before were imo unique because they tried to expand the concept to high frequency tweeters by using a capacitance effects (iirc placing a mesh in front of a metal dome) .
I didn't know that, it does look like she has a clue 🙂
Re your daughter, she sounds talented. There are plenty of great composers and musicians who aren't great players
Actually, I have been providing details. That was tongue in cheek. Man, I'm 0 for 2 in the humor category lately.. 😱
Yah, I'm naive as well.
As to coils, my mini lathe does per inch and metric screw threads both RHT and LHT, I'm going to have to make a chart for wire gauge vs change gears.
It would be easy enough to use, it has a variable speed brushless drive.
I'd have to make some guides that attach to the carriage.
I guess the three jaw is sufficient, I could use the tail stock to center during clamping, then back it out of the way.
Hmm. Once I get my dust-rite fully installed, I may have to play.
Jn
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