Yes for sure plants have feelings.
There were, and perhaps still are, organisms that existed between the animal and plant kingdoms
Yes, and respect what we are eating and how it has got to our plate. Again I think it is a matter of modern disconnection largelyMy personal thoughts Gents, at the end of the day, we should just respect the choices that every individual makes, after all we all have different thoughts, different up bringing, different cultures etc. Where to draw the line you say, I for one am not sure cause there’s bound to be lots of different views & contradictions. Me being Chinese, if I were to look into vegetarians, I too would have lots of questions & doubts
Cheers
The extremists can be nasty, but that goes for all extremists. Any movement is going to attract such individuals unfortunately.Vaginism is a nasty business. I'm aginst.
Microbes which form the base of the foodchain in the world of perpetual night around deep ocean hydrothermal vents perhaps?Originally posted by scottjoplin >
There were, and perhaps still are, organisms that existed between the animal and plant kingdoms.
They are unusual in that they grow by means of chemosynthesis instead of by means of photosynthesis as employed by green plants and algae.
Yes, you get the point.Puts a serious dampener on your sex life.
You keep changing the wording. Please stop that. Instead of rewriting, I'll just quote.Poor argument. Obviously not everyone has the urge, as all you had to do was post that to immediately find someone who does not. If it was so easy to find someone without the urge, what does that say?
Anyway, it's an old argument - just another of many. Sorry to be harsh, but your claim is stale and somewhat insulting. As I said, I've been around all these same old arguments for years, and have gotten jaded. If you feel these are fresh arguments that you want to pursue, I'm probably not your guy. Too much BTDT
Please read carefully before reacting, the following is what I wrote.
"In terms of natural urge, we all have it. Some people don't like raw fish (ahem... seen earlier on this thread) but if they get hungry enough they will have second thought."
The key phrases are "natural urge" and "get hungry enough".
What about fungi, like mushrooms and yeast. They are classified differently than plant or animal. Are they OK to eat? It seems the list is getting short.
That's up to you They certainly show some interesting behaviour and feed and chat to plants all the time.....
Fungi look more like plants but on a cellular level they are much more closely related to animals.
That said the earliest 'plants' were probably 'animals'.
There is this single cell organism which I believe still exists and it starts off as a tiny carnivore swimming around devouring and digesting other single cellers. However when it devours cyanobacteria it does not digest them but supplies them with nutrients. It also stops swimming around and just follows the light.
Unfortunately it is well over two decades since I read up on that so I can't remember the name of that creature and back then the name seemed less important to myself than its life-cycle.
Either way it seems that plants use what once were independent cyanobacteria very much like animals use mitochondria which also once may have been independent living bacteria.
That said the earliest 'plants' were probably 'animals'.
There is this single cell organism which I believe still exists and it starts off as a tiny carnivore swimming around devouring and digesting other single cellers. However when it devours cyanobacteria it does not digest them but supplies them with nutrients. It also stops swimming around and just follows the light.
Unfortunately it is well over two decades since I read up on that so I can't remember the name of that creature and back then the name seemed less important to myself than its life-cycle.
Either way it seems that plants use what once were independent cyanobacteria very much like animals use mitochondria which also once may have been independent living bacteria.
Sorry jtgofish, you are far too thoughtful.I am guessing the vegan bloke must have walked , ridden a bicycle and paddled a canoe to that country to hand out samples because flying there would have certainly negated any of his planet saving gains from being vegan.And if he did ride a bike or walk how many creatures did he squash on the way?
And maybe accidentally bashed several squid and jellyfish to death with his paddle too!
What people eat in their own domain is their own business. But what you are seeing is what they decided to post on a forum that's open to public. In other words, they are showing their views to the public. What do you think would happen, no reactions?My personal thoughts Gents, at the end of the day, we should just respect the choices that every individual makes, after all we all have different thoughts, different up bringing, different cultures etc. Where to draw the line you say, I for one am not sure cause there’s bound to be lots of different views & contradictions. Me being Chinese, if I were to look into vegetarians, I too would have lots of questions & doubts
Cheers
But the crux of the subject is, if it's partial veganism, is that person a vegan? Thus the argument goes on.The extremists can be nasty, but that goes for all extremists. Any movement is going to attract such individuals unfortunately.
Microbes which form the base of the foodchain in the world of perpetual night around deep ocean hydrothermal vents perhaps?
They are unusual in that they grow by means of chemosynthesis instead of by means of photosynthesis as employed by green plants and algae.
Yes Trembly's creature. Its both animal and plant.
Some critters in that transcreature class have incredible powers of regeneration.
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???......Btw on a lighter note, those cheap Schurter fuses are no longer slow. You can try them, sounds really good. As I bought a whole bunch, think it cost me less then a $1 each.
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