How would a pair of B&C 18 NW100 sound these compared to the same speakers in a bass reflex? Worth it? Or is this box really designed for more powerful subs?
My music is primarily soca.
My music is primarily soca.
As you said this box is really designed for more powerful subs. Not that the NW100 is bad but it isn't the best match for this.
For 18" drivers:
The 18SW115-4 has a strength of: 26^2/3.3 = 204
The 18SW115-8 has a strength of: 30.3^2/5.3 = 173
So you should use the 4 ohm version.
The 18DS115-4 is preferable option:
it has a strength of: 34^2/3.3 = 350
The 18SW115-4 has a strength of: 26^2/3.3 = 204
The 18SW115-8 has a strength of: 30.3^2/5.3 = 173
So you should use the 4 ohm version.
The 18DS115-4 is preferable option:
it has a strength of: 34^2/3.3 = 350
Dam. I had a pair of the 18SW115-8 already and couldn't decide what to put them in. Well I think Ill go with the OT Horn or Keystone then........
Thanks for the advice guys!!
Thanks for the advice guys!!
For reference: John uses the 21" B&C Ipal drivers:
21IPAL strength: 19.1^2/0.7 = 521
Als the xmax of this driver is enormous compared to the others. It will make waves.
21IPAL strength: 19.1^2/0.7 = 521
Als the xmax of this driver is enormous compared to the others. It will make waves.
Right...I use the 21Ipal's. I have 21DS115-4's on hand I will test in this cab this summer.
Based on MFG specs and the simulations I have in HR I recommend these drivers for best performance with this cab.
21Ipal
21DS115
21SW152
21ID
21NLW9601
If using an 18" the 18DS115 looks the best.
Based on MFG specs and the simulations I have in HR I recommend these drivers for best performance with this cab.
21Ipal
21DS115
21SW152
21ID
21NLW9601
If using an 18" the 18DS115 looks the best.
Hey all!
I'm building four skhorns and have purchased 21sw152s for two of them and I happen have four 18sw115s floating around. Is there a "best practice" for building 18" reducers so that I can have all four of these up and running? I want to be able to go 21s on all four eventually but cost is an issue for now..
Thanks!
I'm building four skhorns and have purchased 21sw152s for two of them and I happen have four 18sw115s floating around. Is there a "best practice" for building 18" reducers so that I can have all four of these up and running? I want to be able to go 21s on all four eventually but cost is an issue for now..
Thanks!
Hey all!
I'm building four skhorns and have purchased 21sw152s for two of them and I happen have four 18sw115s floating around. Is there a "best practice" for building 18" reducers so that I can have all four of these up and running? I want to be able to go 21s on all four eventually but cost is an issue for now..
Thanks!
I have built reducers for the Othorn before. It was basically a baffle insert that bolted an 18" cutout baffle to a 21" driver cutout. Something similar could work for the Skhorn but I'm not completely sure there is enough room. Alternatively you could cut for 18" drivers and enlarge the holes for the 21's later. It may not be a perfect CNC'd hole for the 21's but you should be able to get it good enough with some specialized tools and ingenuity.
hello ppl,
we are thinking about building either the othorn, palehorn or skhorn. All of these are interesting for us as infra (30 Hz - 60Hz) subs to our Limmer B215s.
In our club the skhorn would be overkill, would it be possible to just build a half one? I don't see any reason why it shouldn't work?
If that is not feasable, is the Palehorn an improvement to the Othorn?
Otherwise are there comparable measurements between othorn and skhorn. Since the othorn is smaller and is the same size as our limmers it would be very interesting to know where the advantages are?
kind regards
finn
we are thinking about building either the othorn, palehorn or skhorn. All of these are interesting for us as infra (30 Hz - 60Hz) subs to our Limmer B215s.
In our club the skhorn would be overkill, would it be possible to just build a half one? I don't see any reason why it shouldn't work?
If that is not feasable, is the Palehorn an improvement to the Othorn?
Otherwise are there comparable measurements between othorn and skhorn. Since the othorn is smaller and is the same size as our limmers it would be very interesting to know where the advantages are?
kind regards
finn
If that is not feasable, is the Palehorn an improvement to the Othorn?
That Palehorn is an interesting fold. Looks like a THAM-style design with an extra fold. I've seen it somewhere before...
As illustrated it looks like a single-expansion TH, but I can see how, like the THAM, it can be converted to a dual-expansion TH, which makes the layout, and therefore the driver choice, a bit more flexible. Hmm... I think I'll do an optimization workbook for it, to see if it has any advantages over the basic THAM fold.
Why do you think the SKHorn is overkill though?
That Palehorn is an interesting fold. Looks like a THAM-style design with an extra fold. I've seen it somewhere before...
As illustrated it looks like a single-expansion TH, but I can see how, like the THAM, it can be converted to a dual-expansion TH, which makes the layout, and therefore the driver choice, a bit more flexible. Hmm... I think I'll do an optimization workbook for it, to see if it has any advantages over the basic THAM fold.
Why do you think the SKHorn is overkill though?
We don't need an infra that powerfull, hence the question If half an skhorn would work.
Was the Palehorn ever published for free? I recall Josh wanted "to keep it" and he wasn´t fully satisfied, which lead to the sk Horn.
I guess a half Skorn wil probably work just fine. If horn sub is overkill why not use a simple bassreflex design for the intended frequency range?
I guess a half Skorn wil probably work just fine. If horn sub is overkill why not use a simple bassreflex design for the intended frequency range?
We don't like the sound, they are just not as precise as br subwoofers...
That Palehorn is an interesting fold. Looks like a THAM-style design with an extra fold. I've seen it somewhere before...
I used that fold style on the Gjallarhorn V2 also. I'm sure others have used similar in the past. There's only so many ways to fold these things into a workable cab!
Was the Palehorn ever published for free? I recall Josh wanted "to keep it" and he wasn´t fully satisfied, which lead to the sk Horn.
You are correct. I never published it. It wasn't enough of an improvement over the Othorn.
hello ppl,
In our club the skhorn would be overkill, would it be possible to just build a half one? I don't see any reason why it shouldn't work?
Otherwise are there comparable measurements between othorn and skhorn. Since the othorn is smaller and is the same size as our limmers it would be very interesting to know where the advantages are?
kind regards
finn
The Skhorn is a dual driver mirrored design so technically it could be cut in half and built. It would be quite small for a 21" pro cab at 24x32x27 if cut in half. I have a single driver design that is sized up a bit, with a different layout but it is only about 85% done. I haven't had time to finalize it.
You can compare the measured performance of the Othorn and Skhorn at Data-Bass. I've uploaded full sets of measurements for both cabs. I like the Skhorn better.
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