....6s33s are not very stable specimen (batch dependant), thats why you need pick good ones which do not "move around".
sometimes are seen on ebay twin carbon triodes bigger version than 6336. (forgot the name, its like 7000 something)
basically a 813like big socket, no octal here.
sometimes are seen on ebay twin carbon triodes bigger version than 6336. (forgot the name, its like 7000 something)
basically a 813like big socket, no octal here.
twin carbon triodes bigger version than 6336. (forgot the name, its like 7000 something)
There are two, the 7241 has a Mu of 2.7 with a Gm of 40,000 and the 7242 has a Mu of 9 with a Gm of 111,000 !
Both have plate currents of about 1 amp, and plate dissipation ratings of 100 watts. They actually have three cathode / grid structures wired in parallel feeding a single large carbon plate. They do fit the same socket as an 813.
I have never seen any of these and the sale prices for used ones are stupid high, like $200 each.
I have a 30 pound box of 6080's, maybe some day I'll wire a bunch of them together.
I have build a very well behaving OTL with NO feedback and NO stability problems: 6C33 Circlotron
Ummm, Circlotron with NO FDBK?
More like 50% CFB unless there are some floating interstage xfmrs driving the outputs. Maybe no Global N Fdbk.
With CFB the best device has maximum gm. $1000 7242 tube or $3 Mosfet, your choice.
$1000 7242 tube or $3 Mosfet, your choice.
....I choose "none of the above"
I have been collecting and saving these for a possible OTL some day. On the left are Mil spec 6080WA's. I have probably 40 or 50 used tubes in good condition. I have another 50 or so NOS 6080, 6080WA or 6080WB tubes in the original boxes, but not all are Mil spec.
On the right are some rather used and somewhat corroded 6336A's. The ones that I have tried were good, but they were the nicer looking examples. I have more somewhere, but I'm not sure how many.
Then there's this. It's a Bendix 6080W with graphite plates. I found this at a hamfest a dozen years ago, and haven't seen another one since.
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Ummm, Circlotron with NO FDBK?
More like 50% CFB unless there are some floating interstage xfmrs driving the outputs. Maybe no Global N Fdbk.
With CFB the best device has maximum gm. $1000 7242 tube or $3 Mosfet, your choice.
Of course global feedback....
Every Cathode/Emitter/Source follower are feedback stages, but that was not the point.
In my experience, the 6c33 (or 6s33 if you will) are not nearly as bad as their reputation, except for their heat production, which is very real and must be dealt with. I have NOT matched the 6c33 in my amp, and it is still working fine. But, I think it is a lot easier to make an OTL circlotron with 6sa7/6080.....6s33s are not very stable specimen (batch dependant), thats why you need pick good ones which do not "move around".
sometimes are seen on ebay twin carbon triodes bigger version than 6336. (forgot the name, its like 7000 something)
basically a 813like big socket, no octal here.
Finally completed my M-60's. Sound is incredible.
Just fantastic Demonkleaner!
Well done!
What gauges are you using for offset etc?
Nice build too!
Thanks. Gauges are vintage Westons I picked up at a hamfest. I clipped the shunt inside and now they're very sensitive volt meters. After warm up, the voltage doesn't vary more than a millivolt or two. Ralph's (Atma-Sphere) circuit is very stable.
The radiant heat from that must be amazing in the winter.
The wife has yet to discover the A/C is set a bit lower than normal

I gave up vacuum tubes in OTL amps. Here is a nice "tube" with 9A/V transconductance. 😀
https://www.wolfspeed.com/downloads/dl/file/id/959/product/222/c3m0075120k.pdf
https://www.wolfspeed.com/downloads/dl/file/id/959/product/222/c3m0075120k.pdf
Tubes are heated with an SMPS. That's a common mode choke to get rid of any noise. There are a couple caps under it too. Amps are very quiet.In the second pic, what's the little choke for between the rectifiers?
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