John Curl's Blowtorch preamplifier part III

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White cats with yellow eyes tend to be deaf.

That one was a black poor devil, RIP
Now our Mauro is a sharp-eared guard (here is two hours after the castration operation, poor guy)

As to conscious awareness and women, I will not fall into that trap again.

Again and again till the sun sets ;)

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So you never experienced that the same record did actually make more music through different system components or version of them?

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No, how could something 'make more music' depending on equipment?? That's daft!
Is a van Gogh more or less artistic depending on the frame? "That Rembrand would be a great picture if it wasn't for the frame" ?

Great music is great music, even on the bedside clock radio.

Jan
 
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THD goes up with higher value of loading. = Ohms has the lowest THD.

Subjectively, not sure there is a consensus about that. Some say bass is better with lowest loading.


What changes objectively and subjectively when the ideal zero ohms loading is not quite ideal ?.

Yes, needs to be bloody good, one that does not get upset with high levels of digital/ultrasonic content, iow needs to be a powerful, ie a really good integrator.

That should be of no consequence, what are you getting at standard average music levels ?.
(Have you had a listen yet ?.)
DAC design: the I/V stage WARNING: TECHNICAL CONTENT

Dan.
 
So, would you suggest "inverse distortion profile" for each and every individual recording ;)?

In the future an extended profile might be part of meta data delivered together with a recording which could enable much better reproduction even of older recordings.

But today we don´t know (most often) in what specific conditions a production took place.

We only know that Genelec once found a surprisingly large variation in linearity (surprising at least to me) over an extended range of locations all equipped with the same (factory calibrated) loudspeaker system and all measured with exactly the same measurement gear, done by the same person.

Imo if we don´t know about the conditions during the recording/mixing/production we can´t conclude about the reproduction approach offering the most accurate musical content presentation.

@ gpapag,

the deaf cat line wasn´t written by me......
 
Are you at liberty to tell us which product you found this in?

I am discussing with the producer. They have admitted something, but not enough. They do not meet the tech specs that they declare in the manual and on the web site. If they do not change their approach to a more positive one, I will disclose the company and the product.
 
I like it. I hope my customers like it. It may or may not sound like the real thing. My ad copy writer will use his creative writing skills to convince them to like it.

Which is quite funny as it implies that other manufacturers (in the majority?) are really trying to figure out if there products "sound like the real thing" and are using (large scale?) controlled (even blind) listening tests.

I have my doubts though..... :cool:
 
<snip> Some have said that everything ends up sound the same, but as Scott pointed out earlier, some of is so obvious that you would have to be a deaf cat (is there such a thing?) to not hear it, but then, you don't actually need any ABX anyway. So is this really just about the subtle details only and whether they are audible? Then whatever you are testing, you are always going to have arguments. And then what has settled, what has been achieved? Just asking.
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That you don´t need an "ABX" (i´d say in most cases you never need an ABX but maybe another test protocol more appropriate, but that depends on the research question) to detect the obvious looks like a reasonable assumption but if you use controlled tests in those cases you get surprising results anyway.

Obviously the participants didn´t have to be blind to miss the "gorilla" in our midst:
The Invisible Gorilla: And Other Ways Our Intuitions Deceive Us

Depending on the specific conditions of the different tests a proportion of 30 to ~ 50% of participants did not detect the "gorilla" .

And it didn´t only work that way in the case of inattentional blindness but in later experiments for inattentional deafness as well.

So it is quite safe to conclude that even quite large (even easily measured ones) difference could remain undetected as it depends strongly on the participants and the sort of statistical analysis.
 
Low-distortion Audio-range Oscillator

PMA, your comments about the C0G caps misbehaving seems to run contrary to what this says (even if Victor did find them to be marginally inferior). Or is this really a case of size as well, given you're talking about a 4.7 uF part instead of a 100 nF?

Oh my God!! Where did I say anything about problems with COG?? Will you quote properly?? And do not misquote, please!!
 
i´d say in most cases you never need an ABX but maybe another test protocol more appropriate, but that depends on the research question
What would the question be? It's going to have to be subjective. For instance, which is the "better" sounding, that's good enough!
As for the test protocol, forgive me I've no experience and not sure what it means. However, let us assume that everyone involved genuinely wants to find out what it is that makes one piece of equipment sound "better" than another, what would be a way to proceed?
 
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However, let us assume that everyone involved genuinely wants to find out what it is that makes one piece of equipment sound "better" than another, what would be a way to proceed?

I don't think that is possible simply because you can't define what it means to 'sound better' . All these tests are generally designed to find out whether something sounds different from something else. What is 'better' is personal and can differ from one person to another without ill effect!

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Let me clarify my post #860. The THD plot I made was with whatever I could put together. The oscillator was a Sound Technology with an external L/C filter and the signal (7V rms, 600 Ohms, at 20kHz) was notched in both plots so this shows relative reduction of THD. To get absolute THD you need to undo the notch's frequency response. -105dB was pretty good in the day at these extremes, good enough to make a -130dB oscillator at 1kHz.

I gather from the other offhand comments about feedback, etc. there might be another agenda afoot. Please not the feedback goes round and round and can't stop what has gone before.
 
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