Fair point. What was offered is an answer to the thread, with at least some attempt at rigor in testing the hypothesis. At least there's little tolerance for puffery in Science, where retractions are published.He's not wrong in being incredulous of most dietary studies. Although I don't restrict my own skepticism to just that field.
Nor does being published in Science give too much credence, as it's a journal that prides itself in being on the cutting edge, and therefore susceptible to a lot of speculation.
I don't see the same approach applied in most of the "Modern medicine is bad for you" claims.
There does seem to be a good deal of pouting from those proselytizing, when challenged.
"My wife is an endocrinologist"...[emoji243][emoji90]
The secrets to a healthy heart are audio grade capacitors, oxygen free unidirectional interconnects, and avoiding excessive jitter.
Yes, specific cure for audio fanatics ! 😀


Medicine is bad and the earth is flat.
And all of life is an illusion ! 😀
My wife works in Endocrinology and Internal Medicine many years, and relatively recently got into Functional Medicine
Functional medicine - Wikipedia
And pardon my ignorance, but isn't functional medicine another rebranding of alternative, wait no, complementary medicine?
From the above link, yes.
Dear DPH; being myself trained in hypnosis by Dr. Richard Bandler and John La Valle, I refuse to participate in discussions where opponents use it instead of arguments, because I consider it shameful. Welcome to my ignore list!
And you to mine.
Okay Mr wavebourne, carry on then. For what it's worth, I gave you quite an easy out, but you chose not to use it. Nor did my opening question say anything false insofar as to the very claims that its founders nebulously define functional medicine. Neither do I assume any insincerity. But I'm apparently getting on any number of ignored lists by folks who find data and careful research (starting first with literature) a path inconvenient to their world view.
You won't be on my lengthy list.
The ELIXIR - how we make it
Recipe as I use it:
1 inch ginger chopped into small pieces. No need to remove skin but ensure it is cleaned very well.
5 cloves of garlic. Try to use organic local produce. Chinese ones are irradiated and so not as potent.If they are large cloves use just three.
Just crush it but no need to remove the thin skin. You can even add it as it is !
1 whole lime ( they are smaller than lemons and have a thin skin ). Like Indian lime. Chop into 8 pieces with skin. ( Can leave the seeds if you want to but it makes the mix slightly bitter...just a bit.)
50 ml water.
50 to 60 ml Apple Cider Vinegar ( unfiltered..very important. Preferably Braggs. )
Put all this in a blender and beat it up completely till no pieces are left. Might take about 2 to 3 mins. Then sieve this or put into a cloth and squeeze out the juice. Add another 20 ml or so of water in the blender and collect the remaining mixture and sieve it also.
To this filtered mixture add 1/3 rd it's volume of honey.So if you get 100ml filtered liquid, add 33ml honey. Mix well and store in a "glass bottle" in the refrigerator. Start using it immediately. Since it's taste changes after the 3rd day we assume potency falls after 3 days ! Make up a fresh batch every 3 days. Though I said that you need at least 1 teaspoon full ( 5 ml ) to 1 tablespoonful ( 15 ml) at a time you can even take 1 ounce at a time without any problems. Just use up the mixture by the 3rd day ! Then make a fresh batch.
Recipe as I use it:
1 inch ginger chopped into small pieces. No need to remove skin but ensure it is cleaned very well.
5 cloves of garlic. Try to use organic local produce. Chinese ones are irradiated and so not as potent.If they are large cloves use just three.
Just crush it but no need to remove the thin skin. You can even add it as it is !
1 whole lime ( they are smaller than lemons and have a thin skin ). Like Indian lime. Chop into 8 pieces with skin. ( Can leave the seeds if you want to but it makes the mix slightly bitter...just a bit.)
50 ml water.
50 to 60 ml Apple Cider Vinegar ( unfiltered..very important. Preferably Braggs. )
Put all this in a blender and beat it up completely till no pieces are left. Might take about 2 to 3 mins. Then sieve this or put into a cloth and squeeze out the juice. Add another 20 ml or so of water in the blender and collect the remaining mixture and sieve it also.
To this filtered mixture add 1/3 rd it's volume of honey.So if you get 100ml filtered liquid, add 33ml honey. Mix well and store in a "glass bottle" in the refrigerator. Start using it immediately. Since it's taste changes after the 3rd day we assume potency falls after 3 days ! Make up a fresh batch every 3 days. Though I said that you need at least 1 teaspoon full ( 5 ml ) to 1 tablespoonful ( 15 ml) at a time you can even take 1 ounce at a time without any problems. Just use up the mixture by the 3rd day ! Then make a fresh batch.
The ELIXIR - the original PDF
You will notice that the picture in the PDF shows Heinz ACV used for salads . We have also tried this and it still has some potency but the Unfiltered/unpasteurised ACV is the one that really does wonders. It's full of enzymes etc that help with the cure. The clear salad version ACV is stripped of all that. If you can't get Unfiltered and unpasteurised ACV, this could be used.
Also notice they show two lemons in the picture. The smaller " lime " is more potent as it's thin skin contains chemicals that are supposedly 10,000 more potent than chemotherapy ! I have not seen them say this about the ( larger) lemon. Besides for us lime is easier ( and cheaper ) to get than lemons ! But as I said you could use a 'lemon' though we think it would be less potent. In all our feedback from users who had miraculous benefits, they all used " lime " and Braggs unfiltered ACV.
Trust you will find this mixture useful in some way. Use it daily for a month or two to see what happens. For a week take it 3 times a day then drop to twice a day for the remaining time. As a sustaining 'dose' you could take it once a day later on and it probably will keep your vessels clean all the time (?) !
OK. Now another story ( report !)🙂 to spice up all of this. Remember we do not know how all of it works and what all it cures or even who will benefit and who it will not ! Main thing is you must be 'positive' minded about it helping you. Why ? Because most doctors ( especially from the West ) are now saying that 90% of the cure comes from a positive attitude and only 10 % from the medicine itself !
The original title on the PDF says heart cure medicine because the original person used it for that problem . But this cures A LOT OF THINGS not just heart related.
Note the PDF says Heart cure medicine because the original person used it for that ailment. This cures A LOT OF THINGS ! I'll give you more stories later on. For some I would need permission from the persons who got huge benefits before I post their results !
The story ! My aunt had her left breast removed due to cancer. Three years after that the left arm swelled up so much she had to alter all her clothes because that arm was so big now. The doctors told her that this was a common occurrence after such a surgery and she would have to live with it.Another year later the swollen arm started hurting and she was panicking if the cancer had returned. They did some tests but couldn't come to any conclusion. My other aunt ( her elder sister ) who was asked to take the ELIXIR for her aches and pains decided to ask her sister to take it. Until now I had no idea about the younger aunt's medical problems. Three weeks later ( yes 21 days later !) my older aunt excitedly called me and said that the swollen arm had become normal again and the doctors were baffled ! The younger aunt still takes the mixture every day and it's been about 3 years since this happened and she is doing fine ! Will this work for everyone with this problem ? We have no idea. Try it out ! As I said , I think you must also have 'faith' that what you are consuming will help you !
Remember " The Biology of Belief "? They are now firmly convinced that every cell in your body "listens" to what's going on in your mind ! This fact was well know to the ancient people of our land and is mentioned in their medical texts ! Modern science now has proof that it's true ! Funnily this exposes the existence of forces that are not visible to us. Like they tried to determine how the cells interacted with the mind. They found NO material path ( via the body ) by which this happened but they did communicate ! The conclusion was they used forces that we can't sense and was not material in nature ! Interesting huh ? However all that has already been explained thousands of years ago in ancient texts in our land ( and other ancient civilizations too !) !
You could try to make the ELIXIR using our simple process first and then if you want to , you can try the method in the PDF. I know of only one person who did it that way. He started using it 'our' way ( beneficially !) and later tried the PDF version. He found it messy/smelly and hard to do and it didn't seem to do anything better. But your options are open !🙂
You will notice that the picture in the PDF shows Heinz ACV used for salads . We have also tried this and it still has some potency but the Unfiltered/unpasteurised ACV is the one that really does wonders. It's full of enzymes etc that help with the cure. The clear salad version ACV is stripped of all that. If you can't get Unfiltered and unpasteurised ACV, this could be used.
Also notice they show two lemons in the picture. The smaller " lime " is more potent as it's thin skin contains chemicals that are supposedly 10,000 more potent than chemotherapy ! I have not seen them say this about the ( larger) lemon. Besides for us lime is easier ( and cheaper ) to get than lemons ! But as I said you could use a 'lemon' though we think it would be less potent. In all our feedback from users who had miraculous benefits, they all used " lime " and Braggs unfiltered ACV.
Trust you will find this mixture useful in some way. Use it daily for a month or two to see what happens. For a week take it 3 times a day then drop to twice a day for the remaining time. As a sustaining 'dose' you could take it once a day later on and it probably will keep your vessels clean all the time (?) !
OK. Now another story ( report !)🙂 to spice up all of this. Remember we do not know how all of it works and what all it cures or even who will benefit and who it will not ! Main thing is you must be 'positive' minded about it helping you. Why ? Because most doctors ( especially from the West ) are now saying that 90% of the cure comes from a positive attitude and only 10 % from the medicine itself !
The original title on the PDF says heart cure medicine because the original person used it for that problem . But this cures A LOT OF THINGS not just heart related.
Note the PDF says Heart cure medicine because the original person used it for that ailment. This cures A LOT OF THINGS ! I'll give you more stories later on. For some I would need permission from the persons who got huge benefits before I post their results !
The story ! My aunt had her left breast removed due to cancer. Three years after that the left arm swelled up so much she had to alter all her clothes because that arm was so big now. The doctors told her that this was a common occurrence after such a surgery and she would have to live with it.Another year later the swollen arm started hurting and she was panicking if the cancer had returned. They did some tests but couldn't come to any conclusion. My other aunt ( her elder sister ) who was asked to take the ELIXIR for her aches and pains decided to ask her sister to take it. Until now I had no idea about the younger aunt's medical problems. Three weeks later ( yes 21 days later !) my older aunt excitedly called me and said that the swollen arm had become normal again and the doctors were baffled ! The younger aunt still takes the mixture every day and it's been about 3 years since this happened and she is doing fine ! Will this work for everyone with this problem ? We have no idea. Try it out ! As I said , I think you must also have 'faith' that what you are consuming will help you !
Remember " The Biology of Belief "? They are now firmly convinced that every cell in your body "listens" to what's going on in your mind ! This fact was well know to the ancient people of our land and is mentioned in their medical texts ! Modern science now has proof that it's true ! Funnily this exposes the existence of forces that are not visible to us. Like they tried to determine how the cells interacted with the mind. They found NO material path ( via the body ) by which this happened but they did communicate ! The conclusion was they used forces that we can't sense and was not material in nature ! Interesting huh ? However all that has already been explained thousands of years ago in ancient texts in our land ( and other ancient civilizations too !) !
You could try to make the ELIXIR using our simple process first and then if you want to , you can try the method in the PDF. I know of only one person who did it that way. He started using it 'our' way ( beneficially !) and later tried the PDF version. He found it messy/smelly and hard to do and it didn't seem to do anything better. But your options are open !🙂
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Who are "they"? Where is the evidence, any credible kind will do. To which "modern science" do you refer?Remember " The Biology of Belief "? They are now firmly convinced that every cell in your body "listens" to what's going on in your mind ! This fact was well know to the ancient people of our land and is mentioned in their medical texts ! Modern science now has proof that it's true
The original PDF says Heart cure medicine. But this cures A LOT OF OTHER AILMENTS. I'd say just try it and maybe it will cure some of your problems. It's not a one stop solution for every ailment possible but maybe it could help with yours ! You wont know if you don't try it. No one can tell you as no one knows !
Just ensure that all the ingredients do not cause you any problems. Some people might be allergic to some. Best part is you could drop out any problematic ingredient and SEE for yourself if the modified version works for you ! There is scope for experimentation as all the ingredients are natural.
Just ensure that all the ingredients do not cause you any problems. Some people might be allergic to some. Best part is you could drop out any problematic ingredient and SEE for yourself if the modified version works for you ! There is scope for experimentation as all the ingredients are natural.
Who are "they"? Where is the evidence, any credible kind will do. To which "modern science" do you refer?
Please read the book " the biology of belief".
Nobody need to believe anything I have written. Dump it if you think it's far fetched. You have the delete key. 🙂
Some asked for the info and so I put it up for them. If this interests you a lot you could search the Net and there is possibly more accurate information there than I can give you. You should believe what you want to. It will determine your life !🙂
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Who are "they"? Where is the evidence, any credible kind will do. To which "modern science" do you refer?
It is like to ask, "What is the evidence that professionally installed Bose system is not perfect and should not satisfy everyone? Any credible kind will do" 😀
Some asked for the info and so I put it up for them.
Thank you for the information! If it helps even one person to feel better it is a great deal!
It is like to ask, "What is the evidence that professionally installed Bose system is not perfect and should not satisfy everyone? Any credible kind will do" 😀
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If it helps even one person to feel better it is a great deal!
Exactly, You hit the nail on the head!
EVERYTHING that we find useful in life should be shared . It's knowledge 'GIVEN' to us....we come across it . So even if it helps only one other person it's worth spreading around...nay...I think it's our duty to spread it around .
In this case it's helped dozens of people who I know and who gave me feedback on how it helped them . Some are just amazing. Amazing to them also and their doctors. BUT I am not here to prove anything for everyone. I just post what I have seen and heard from the people who have used it. It's not hearsay or third party stories. Others can use it if they want to or just dump it !😉
You quoted me so I figured you were answering me. BTW, I addressed why I asked.Fair point. What was offered is an answer to the thread,
My main reason for the inquiry was about others that can't handle the high fat diet, posted by Mike Gergen. I'm curious about what happens as a result of can't handle.
I do not know how much you know this story, it's worth a search of it:
The Miraculous Healing of Mr. Wright's.
The Miraculous Healing of Mr. Wright's.
Listed below is the Youtube story on Mr Wright , followed by two more VERY interesting video's. Suggest that you watch them all. The last one is by the Doctor I was talking about. Dr.B.M.Hegde. You can look him up on Google. He has many other very illuminating lectures.
Old traditional medical men AND the old generation Yoga teachers all said " Talk to your Body" ! " You are NOT your body " . You only use the body....like a robot or an android !
So all parts of your body , organs etc, are individual live parts and you can TALK to them with your mind ! They respond to your feelings . You can heal them too by willing them to heal themselves ! Remember the saying that many use in different places " You've got the Power " !🙂
Here are the links.
The Miraculous Healing of Mr. Wright's Cancer - YouTube
Is there scientific proof we can heal ourselves? | Lissa Rankin, MD | TEDxAmericanRiviera - YouTube
Ayurveda Over Western Medicines | Dr. B.M HEGDE | TEDxMITE - YouTube
Have a great weekend !
Old traditional medical men AND the old generation Yoga teachers all said " Talk to your Body" ! " You are NOT your body " . You only use the body....like a robot or an android !
So all parts of your body , organs etc, are individual live parts and you can TALK to them with your mind ! They respond to your feelings . You can heal them too by willing them to heal themselves ! Remember the saying that many use in different places " You've got the Power " !🙂
Here are the links.
The Miraculous Healing of Mr. Wright's Cancer - YouTube
Is there scientific proof we can heal ourselves? | Lissa Rankin, MD | TEDxAmericanRiviera - YouTube
Ayurveda Over Western Medicines | Dr. B.M HEGDE | TEDxMITE - YouTube
Have a great weekend !
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