Moode Audio Player for Raspberry Pi

metalman · 2017-04-22 2:33 am

Morias said:
I have donated and will install 3.5 soon.

I have a few thoughts about the new subscription approach which others may wish to comment on.

I see the advantage of the subscription method is Tim remains motivated and we continue to get updates to this great software.

I see the disadvantage is the new user cannot try it out unless they donate. Someone who hasn't used it before is likely to be attracted to runeaudio or volumio as they are free. Slowly over time the user base will diminish and Tim's motivation to update Moode will similarly diminish.

To avoid this happening, I suggest an older version (eg 3.1 currently) remain available to download for free so people can try it out. Those who want to remain on the cutting edge like most of us here will continue to donate.

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First, no problem seeing the value, I just enthusiastically paid for the update even though I was perfectly happy with 3.1. Tim is doing fantastic work and he deserves reward for it.

But I also see the point from above. I tried MoOde because the first try cost me nothing, but am now a loyal customer because it worked so well. Finding a business model that still makes it accessible to the first time user but also encourages payment for the value Tim generates would be beneficial. Not sure what the right balance is, but I think there is a valid point here.

Terry

Zootalaws · 2017-04-22 2:33 am

burmar said:
Don't like to talk about other projects but on rune audio i saw it can do it throught a chrome instance... it shows the album cover and some info about it..

That wasn't a stock installation of Rune, was it? Afaik Rune is headless, just like Moode

I thought you were asking about as it is installed, not a modified installation.

Yes, it's possible - install a GUI-based UI on Moode OS.

ferdz · 2017-04-22 12:12 pm

TimCurtis said:
Hi,

I have a test bugfix update ready and need some volunteers to try it out. If you would like to give it a go, email tim at moodeaudio dot org and I'll provide instructions.

You would need to be able to use ssh terminal to run a few commands that configure Moode to see the test update, and then after its applied via "CHECK for software update, VIEW/INSTALL" on System config, run a few more commands to verify some things.

The test update fixes the bugs listed below and also updates the in-place updater to use the very nice Amazon CloudFront going forward.

Below is list of whats covered in the update.

Updates

- UPD: switch to AWS CloudFront for in-place updates

Bug fixes

- FIX: I2S device list query
- FIX: Playlist save not working
- FIX: DSD decoded-to on Audioconfig
- FIX: Wifi/BT disable not working if Adv kernel
- FIX: Change Browser title not working
- FIX: System info on/off status for UPnP, DLNA
- FIX: ALSA volume field "required" error

-Tim

Hi Tim,

Would this update include the Allo Boss DAC workaround below?

TimCurtis said:
Hi,

If you know a little Linux ssh then try the cmd below. its a workaround until I can get an in-place update packaged up. Note that the Boss driver only works in the Adv kernels.

sudo sqlite3 /var/local/www/db/moode-sqlite3.db "update cfg_audiodev set kernel='' where id='1’"

-Tim

TimCurtis · 2017-04-22 12:31 pm

ferdz said:
Hi Tim,

Would this update include the Allo Boss DAC workaround below?

Hi,

The item

FIX: I2S device list query

fixes the "Boss driver not visible" issue and also a few other issues.

-Tim

Soldeed · 2017-04-22 12:51 pm

In MoOde 3.5 I do not see a choice for a Just Boom Digi HAT for a Pi3B.

Should I use the Digi HAT (Zero) setting?

belt250 · 2017-04-22 12:52 pm

Updating, test later...

TimCurtis · 2017-04-22 12:56 pm

Soldeed said:
In MoOde 3.5 I do not see a choice for a Just Boom Digi HAT for a Pi3B.

Should I use the Digi HAT (Zero) setting?

Hi,

Yes, the Digi HAT (Zero) selection covers

Digi HAT
Digi Zero pHAT

-Tim

albanibr · 2017-04-22 1:12 pm

Tim, if you can include the new BOSS drivers.
It was mentioned by Allo team in volumio forum..
They did it because of a click / pop sound when changing tracks

and thanks, of corse!

burmar · 2017-04-22 1:39 pm

Zootalaws said:
That wasn't a stock installation of Rune, was it? Afaik Rune is headless, just like Moode

I thought you were asking about as it is installed, not a modified installation.

Yes, it's possible - install a GUI-based UI on Moode OS.

Stock install...

An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.

belt250 · 2017-04-22 4:10 pm

Hi, Tim

There is an Audio Info. issue after install the 3.5 bug fix update.

When music is playing, Decode and Output info. show nothing.

TimCurtis · 2017-04-22 4:36 pm

albanibr said:
Tim, if you can include the new BOSS drivers.
It was mentioned by Allo team in volumio forum..
They did it because of a click / pop sound when changing tracks

and thanks, of corse!

Hi,

AFAIK the updated Allo drivers are only in the 4.9 Linux kernel branch. I'll start testing 4.9.x as soon as the devs fix the "I2S sync/clocks" issue.

-Tim

belt250 · 2017-04-22 4:37 pm

Hi, Tim

Audio Info. issue update.

When change audio output from i2s to USB DAC, The decode and output rate info. is correct. Then change back to i2s (restart), the audio info. back to wrong situation.

TimCurtis · 2017-04-22 4:38 pm

belt250 said:
Hi, Tim

There is an Audio Info. issue after install the 3.5 bug fix update.

When music is playing, Decode and Output info. show nothing.

Hi,

Does the issue occur only with that particular WAV file?

I ran quick test with .wav and am not able to repro

-Tim

belt250 · 2017-04-22 4:45 pm

TimCurtis said:
Hi,

Does the issue occur only with WAV file?

-Tim

Same on other format.

TimCurtis · 2017-04-22 5:12 pm

belt250 said:
Same on other format.

Hi,

I switched to Advanced-RT kernel and am still not able to repro the issue.

What is output from cmds below while song is playing?

cat /proc/asound/card0/id
cat /proc/asound/card1/id
cat /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/sub0/hw_params
cat /var/www/audioinfo.php | grep 3.6

-Tim

belt250 · 2017-04-22 5:18 pm

TimCurtis said:
Hi,

I switched to Advanced-RT kernel and am still not able to repro the issue.

What is output from cmds below while song is playing?

cat /proc/asound/card0/id
cat /proc/asound/card1/id
cat /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/sub0/hw_params
cat /var/www/audioinfo.php | grep 3.6

-Tim

Music is playing...

belt250 · 2017-04-22 5:31 pm

Update

agdrago · 2017-04-22 5:47 pm

MooDe 3.5 & HiFI Berry DAC + Pro

Are there any improvements in MooDe 3.5 that specifically benefit a HiFI Berry DAC + Pro on a RBP3b?

Thanks!

etimalandain · 2017-04-22 6:14 pm

Works perfectly here ... maybe depends on the DAC (???)

TimCurtis · 2017-04-22 6:18 pm

belt250 said:
Update

Hi,

I see that USB DAC is plugged in but I2S DAC is actually being used.

Audioinfo, when it sees a device on card1 assumes USB DAC so it checks card1 for hw_params etc.

I'll see if I can improve the logic.

-Tim

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