I'm not the loud music kind! I like it clean. I can't push my speakers very far anyway. I'm currently looking for a solution to a problem that might get expensive soon, and I don't have a job yet, So I won't be getting any louder soon. Though, I CAN get loud, I don't enjoy it. It's painful. I hate how I trained my ears to look for imperfections in sound :')
Nobody wants to employ a 15 year old girl that likes HiFi more than make-up :😀
My wife is delighted when I am busy attempting or succeeding at fixing things. We're well enough off that I don't absolutely need to fix anything, but she's generally happy when I try, shows I am engaged with the world, haven't completely given up and if it saves us some money she has no problem with that either.
She's a bit more puzzled about the audio thing, but would prefer that to me hanging around and bothering her too much.. lol
No one is perfect and there's lots of things we don't and never will agree on, but we manage to make it work. We have assigned responsibilities and other than that she nor I ever dictate what the other should be doing unless it wasn't done. I have lots of free time to spend pursuing my own interests which is a rather important issue for me.
I'm not the loud music kind! I like it clean. I can't push my speakers very far anyway. I'm currently looking for a solution to a problem that might get expensive soon, and I don't have a job yet, So I won't be getting any louder soon. Though, I CAN get loud, I don't enjoy it. It's painful. I hate how I trained my ears to look for imperfections in sound :')
Nobody wants to employ a 15 year old girl that likes HiFi more than make-up :😀
She doesn't like you bothering her when she's at work, but what about her bothering you when you're enjoying your gear's performance? 😛
Well welcome to the forum! Good to have a little balance here.
I remember my mother making a somewhat similar comment to me more decades ago than I'd like to recount.. lol
I design and build most of my own gear, my wife who is not an audiophile in any sense of the word thought it important enough that my engagement present some dozen years ago was a room large enough to serve as listening room, lab and machine shop. To this day I appreciate the fact that she took my interests seriously and accommodated them in what was then HER house.
So complain I can't.
Mom's never entirely get it btw, but that's OK..
Thanks for the welcome! 😛
Woah, that's cool! If I were tidy and rich enough to make my own amplifiers then I would. I'm not a huge fan of Tube-amps. I do build my own speakers though. Occasionally I make a little thing with an arduino or rPi. Just some experimenting. I code, therefrom my interest haha.
I've recently bought a 12 inch subwoofer from Dayton. An RSS315HFA8.
I still prefer my 8" in the T-Line though. I'm.. A massive fan of T-Lines.
Wow I wish I had that mindset when I was your age. I am a musician first and foremost and back then I was attending many rock concerts where the decibel level can get quite high. Currently I will agree that at home and listening to my playback system I do not like it loud. Even attending concerts at BSO some passages can get quite loud for my liking these days.
There are many intelligent and resourceful solutions to achieving good playback without shelling out too much cash, many of which can be found right here on this lovely forum so my advice to you is keep reading. With that said it will still cost money so getting a job to support your hobby is a must. Try looking for something that relates to music like working at a music store or something.
We need more girls that think like you in the world!
Normal listening levels for me never go above 60dB. Peak, that is. When I'm working on stuff in the shed, I turn it up a bit to compensate for the loss of volume. I have all my tracks mastered on my pc at Max peak -3db, with a slight limitter (in case there's a peak that sticks out a couple dB's. Don't want everything to be quiet because of that.) in some cases. That all makes it so I can't possibly bleed from my ears.
but eh, is this kind of like the SLowchat topic of the forums? A chatty style topic oriented at music things, but not in particular?
(oh and if you don't mind .. check out my topic, perhaps?)
-Anna
but eh, is this kind of like the SLowchat topic of the forums? A chatty style topic oriented at music things, but not in particular?
(oh and if you don't mind .. check out my topic, perhaps?)
-Anna
I didn't think anybody under the age of 50 cared about hifi anymore, never mind a teenage girl. The girls in my house (twins, now 20) only cared when they were having parties and wanted music.
Welcome to the forums.
Welcome to the forums.
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Yes, there are sections here where we just shoot the breeze and sometimes it can get off topic.
Welcome to the forum!
To get back on topic, IMHO when one uses a limiter or compression it tends to steer the recording away from HiFi because I believe it takes away from the intended dynamic range.
That's not the point I'm trying to make, actually.
When you have a track that has an RMS volume, digitally of -9dB, and there's three or four peaks that go to -1.3dB.. Would you want to make those equal? Doesn't seem logical to do so in electronic music. Classical music usually has more dynamic range because it's more logical. Therefor I apply a strict limitter that only limits a certain peak to the rms volume when it's more than the amount that I like. That amount changes by the track. I also sometimes manually nudge a peak in Audacity when on the laptop, or Audition when on the workstation. I have a central server with all my music.
I am absolutely against the whole Loudness wars. It ruins music. I use compressors when making music myself. Future bass has that thing when the beat drops it's like the melody is being sucked into a hole or something alike. That's.. Like the only thing I use compressors for. I don't apply a compressor or limitter to any tracks I have. Never complete tracks or parts longer than half a second.
Besides, I never download from Youtube. There's usually dynamic compression on the uploaded stuff, and terrible bitrate compression. Youtube's sound quality is fine if you go for playback. But then you have to choose the right person. Every digital music file I've bought, may it be from YT Red, iTunes, .. All clipped as ****. Dynamically compressed and clipped.
In my next post I'll link you to a comparison between a track I bought, and a track I obtained with my special way of obtaining.
My reference IS live sound. Whether singer or chamber music.
I am not talking about liking the sound, but whether it sounds like what I hear live. But that decision is made internally, not by any external measurements.
And it seems that you are responding to what you THINK I said, rather than what I actually did. You are rather missing my point.
But I wasn't really expecting any different.
Hi sorry for the confusion I was talking in regard to using a a limiter or compressor for playback from mastered recordings. For live performance amplification or in a recording studio I completely agree they are great tools to have.
Oh actually, I have a limitter on my Playback device. For those tracks that I HAD TO DOWNLOAD FROM YOUTUBE D: D: D:
Those are usually badly clipped so I apply a smart limitter. Digital clipping sounds like a goose is getting buttkicked. Or.. something alike.
This is not the best example I could give, but here you go. The wonders of Loudness Wars and stupid people who turn the digital volume over 9000.
>>>>Link to img: http://s29.postimg.org/7a4o70h6f/Normalized.png<<<<
Those are usually badly clipped so I apply a smart limitter. Digital clipping sounds like a goose is getting buttkicked. Or.. something alike.
This is not the best example I could give, but here you go. The wonders of Loudness Wars and stupid people who turn the digital volume over 9000.
>>>>Link to img: http://s29.postimg.org/7a4o70h6f/Normalized.png<<<<
HaHa!! 🙂
Did you upload your track to youtube and then re-download form them for this comparison?
As far as I am concerned the reference is the waveform encoded in the cd or vinyl record or whatever the medium might be.
Reason being that that is what the artist put his/her/their name(s) to it as being their product.
I have no idea what happened to it beforehand or why and I may disagree with some decisions made during the production but this is what the artist/creator/producer approved as the result of their efforts and intended us to hear.
If my stereo reproduces that waveform accurately in form of air pressure variations I am a happy bunny.
I generally find that reacting to what I think someone said is more productive than reacting to what I think they have not said. Whether that is what they meant to say is a different issue, and depends on how good they are at expressing their thoughts in words and how good I am at understanding these words. Words are the only access I have to remote thoughts; there are no non-verbal clues to help me.awkwardbydesign said:
It seems that we are broadly in agreement, even though you appeared to object to my distinction between hi-fi and pleasing sound. Would you like to clarify?
As a general rule you can expect me to respond to what I think someone has said. If you would prefer something different from this then I am unclear how best to oblige.
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