Hi Richard,
Wow.
-Chris
Yup. Not bad for a bunch of really old op amps.
Dadod' CFA power amp is in this realm as are many opamp... discrete and IC.
But also - reminder- we can modify/tune existing audio generators. Here is a Krohn-Hite 4402B muliti-freq and variable level generator. Zoom-in on this:
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THx-RNMarsh
Dick, I was just looking at your picture, and I noticed that the indictation is 10 x better than the spec! That would be a hidden treasure!
Then I noticed you have the analyzer set to measure 2nd harmonic only.
Does that mean that the 2nd is (much) lower than the others? That could explain the difference between what you show and the spec.
Do you have a spectrum of this?
Jan
the Panasonic is set for 2nd harmonic and the 725D is THD, 400hp and 30K lp. Reading the "same", so predominantly 2nd harmonic.
Also like the self portrait behind the bullets.
Cheers
Alan
Also like the self portrait behind the bullets.
Cheers
Alan
The 725D is in analysis mode. That means it looks at the harmonics and ignores the noise. These issues always make comparisons on measurements harder.
I think Richard did a few tweaks to his. I need to document and post the tweaks to my KH4400.
The KH44XX are quite good and some judicious opamp swapping and other tweaks can get as much as 10 dB better. Keep in mind that very secondhand examples still fetch $300+.
The KH4400 uses a JFET for the AGC, the KH4403 uses an analog multiplier. The KH4403 also has a balanced out.
I think Richard did a few tweaks to his. I need to document and post the tweaks to my KH4400.
The KH44XX are quite good and some judicious opamp swapping and other tweaks can get as much as 10 dB better. Keep in mind that very secondhand examples still fetch $300+.
The KH4400 uses a JFET for the AGC, the KH4403 uses an analog multiplier. The KH4403 also has a balanced out.
Hi Demian,
-Chris
That's very true up here as well. The hold their value well.Keep in mind that very secondhand examples still fetch $300+.
-Chris
That is incredible! Unless the K-H has been pimped? Richard did you modify it?
Jan
yes, of course. certain R replaced with trim pots and opamp changes are the primary changes. [Dont ask for the specifics/details as i am in Asia and the K-H is sitting on the shelf in California.]
Just basic mods are used. Also some extra C on the PS rails. The K-H allows selection of freq vs a single freq board.
The Panasonic analyzer has no filters in play.... the 725 does have. Both are showing FFT sum for thd value using the first 5 harmonics. Both are shown in THD measurement mode (not 2H or 2fo).
THx-RNMarsh
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Samuel Groner offered his twin T design to the interested in this thread a while ago. I got the Gerbers and the design note from him, and here is my - not yet finished - example.
Regards,
Braca
His results are pretty dramatic with SMT, what are the types?
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Rerun ---- I am using a commercial variable freq passive notch filter which has been modified to be active or passive with a flick of a switch.
Modifying saves a lot of the building/fab time.........
Now if you only had a distortion-less amp for the active setting. Idea, it might be trivial to program a miniDSP to fix the gain error of only the residual on the passive filter, it really is only an inconvenience the error vs harmonic is known almost exactly ahead of time.
His results are pretty dramatic with SMT, what are the types?
The caps are C0G 1%, the resistors Mini-MELF 0.1%.
My mistake, the filter is not twin-T - it is the Hall network.
Hi Richard,
You really know how to hurt a guy!
Excellent, but that has to have a high measurement uncertainty. It says -140dB, but that has to be a very low impedance. Even then you're at theoretical limits aren't you?
-Chris
You really know how to hurt a guy!
Excellent, but that has to have a high measurement uncertainty. It says -140dB, but that has to be a very low impedance. Even then you're at theoretical limits aren't you?
-Chris
http://www.mouser.com/Semiconductor...ransistors/MOSFET/_/N-ax1sf?P=1z0y3dtZ1yiaumtAnd why are there no P channel depletion mode mosfets?
Google can make anything possible. I know absolutely nothing about these parts, however I intend to find out more. http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/csd25404q3.pdf
The package is human hostile.
http://www.mouser.com/Semiconductor...ransistors/MOSFET/_/N-ax1sf?P=1z0y3dtZ1yiaumt
Google can make anything possible. I know absolutely nothing about these parts, however I intend to find out more. http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/csd25404q3.pdf
The package is human hostile.
Seems, that these are not depletion mosfets. Ids=0 if Vgs=0. Mouser's mistake.
Unfortunately...
http://www.mouser.com/Semiconductor...ransistors/MOSFET/_/N-ax1sf?P=1z0y3dtZ1yiaumt
Google can make anything possible. I know absolutely nothing about these parts, however I intend to find out more. http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/csd25404q3.pdf
The package is human hostile.
Already trailed this. Vicnic is right. Not a depletion mosfet. Mouser is mistaken.
A complimentary set would be interesting.
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