I looked through this post, but couldn't find what I was looking for. Is there a "generic" BSC value?
I built the cabinets, but with a removable baffle so I could try different drivers. I've been playing with the Dayton Audio PS95-8 and the AuraSound NS3-193-8A. They both sound great as long as I have them against a wall, more so with PS95. If I include a BSC filter, I'm thinking it won't be as critical to have them against the wall.
Am I thinking correctly?
Thanks,
Mike
I built the cabinets, but with a removable baffle so I could try different drivers. I've been playing with the Dayton Audio PS95-8 and the AuraSound NS3-193-8A. They both sound great as long as I have them against a wall, more so with PS95. If I include a BSC filter, I'm thinking it won't be as critical to have them against the wall.
Am I thinking correctly?
Thanks,
Mike
Kind-of but not really....
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I believe that you can get it close enough using formulas such as on that site. Though if you then place the speaker hard against the back wall, you'll probably have rather too much bass and midbass up to the BDL/BSC frequency. Ideally you'd have the option of bypassing the BDL or invoking a "minor" one.
PS: This can be a lot easier if done digitally.
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I believe that you can get it close enough using formulas such as on that site. Though if you then place the speaker hard against the back wall, you'll probably have rather too much bass and midbass up to the BDL/BSC frequency. Ideally you'd have the option of bypassing the BDL or invoking a "minor" one.
PS: This can be a lot easier if done digitally.
Oops, a quick search on eBay turns up nothing for the P830986 and the P830987.
China won't let me buy stuff from them because they are fighting Taiwan on the independence thing...
China won't let me buy stuff from them because they are fighting Taiwan on the independence thing...
Ouch, that's sad. Anyways, for those interested i bought from this Aliexpress seller, it didn't arrive yet but the reviews suggests it's the real deal. At $40 a pair and $65 for four it's a steal.
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Well, now it looks like I might be able to get MarkAudio drivers over here.
The only one that seems to fit the TABAQ as is, is the Alpair 6, and if I remembered correctly, most people prefer the Metal cone.
QTS is a little low at 0.38, but Fo is also lower.
The only one that seems to fit the TABAQ as is, is the Alpair 6, and if I remembered correctly, most people prefer the Metal cone.
QTS is a little low at 0.38, but Fo is also lower.
Thanks for the options and maybe great for some other members living around the globe, but again, since Aliexpress is from China, this is what I'm greeted with every time:
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Hello all,
I've got two pairs of Visaton FRS 8 M drivers and I've been lurking this post since a friend handed me those drivers a month ago
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I've built a common TABAQ design I found in this page. Unfortunately, the end result was not what I had hoped for, nor what I had expected. I did not use any baffle step filter since the built wasn't intended for generic use 🙂.
Anyway, can I use those drivers to build this TABAQ design? Could anyone tell me another TL design I could make with those drivers?
Thank you
I've got two pairs of Visaton FRS 8 M drivers and I've been lurking this post since a friend handed me those drivers a month ago
. I've built a common TABAQ design I found in this page. Unfortunately, the end result was not what I had hoped for, nor what I had expected. I did not use any baffle step filter since the built wasn't intended for generic use 🙂.
Anyway, can I use those drivers to build this TABAQ design? Could anyone tell me another TL design I could make with those drivers?
Thank you
I placed the BSC circuit in a project box with a by pass switch and a set feed wire leads with alligator clips. That makes it easy to evaluate the speakers in various room placement configurations. I'm finding that in most instances, you can use the system without the BSC .
I've played with fitting the ND105 into the Tabaq and running it as a 2way with maybe a Dayton ND series tweeter, 20 or 25 variant of some kind. I also increased the height to 90cm.
In order to obtain a "plateau" that didn't shelve downwards towards the bass, I had to move the driver significantly lower. Or accept that when stuffed I'd have a nice 40-45hz bass with a low scoop response in the 50-80hz range.
This is the current model with (I think) heavy stuffing.
It would be interesting to see if it bears any resemblance to other simulation tools.
J.
In order to obtain a "plateau" that didn't shelve downwards towards the bass, I had to move the driver significantly lower. Or accept that when stuffed I'd have a nice 40-45hz bass with a low scoop response in the 50-80hz range.
This is the current model with (I think) heavy stuffing.
It would be interesting to see if it bears any resemblance to other simulation tools.
J.
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I just completed a pair of these with the Dayton Audio PS95-8. Saying I'm impressed is a vast understatement! Thanks for sharing Bjorn!!!
Now... as an compulsively addicted DIY'er, I have an idea, which comes with a question. I don't know if this is even reasonable or feasible, but here goes. Would it be possible to make a "double TABAQ" in a vertical fashion? I know I've seen something about making a "double TABAQ" with the same vertical dimension, but I'm curious about changing the height, since I think it might be critical. I think a tall TABAQ might look impressive. Plus I wouldn't mind bringing up the sensitivity a little since I might gift a pair of these along with a small T-amp or class D amp.
Just wondering about options... and gifts.
Thanks,
Mike
Now... as an compulsively addicted DIY'er, I have an idea, which comes with a question. I don't know if this is even reasonable or feasible, but here goes. Would it be possible to make a "double TABAQ" in a vertical fashion? I know I've seen something about making a "double TABAQ" with the same vertical dimension, but I'm curious about changing the height, since I think it might be critical. I think a tall TABAQ might look impressive. Plus I wouldn't mind bringing up the sensitivity a little since I might gift a pair of these along with a small T-amp or class D amp.
Just wondering about options... and gifts.
Thanks,
Mike
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Here is my version of a tall TABAQ . Not a true full range but I'm getting an f3 of 50Hz. Drivers are surplus from Parts Express. 80 Hz Fs, .9 Qts, .2 Vas.
Made from 5.5" pine 48 inches long.
Made from 5.5" pine 48 inches long.
"I see no pics"
MikeJennens
As regards a taller Tabaq, and a more sensitive one, it's difficult.... The Dayton driver isn't insensitive. It's also small enough to produce a reasonable top end. You could go to something like a FaitalPro driver 3FE22? But you'd need to prop up the bottom end of the frequency response with a woofer (or 2). Possibly you could insert a couple of 4" woofers firing sideways out of each enclosure?
MikeJennens
As regards a taller Tabaq, and a more sensitive one, it's difficult.... The Dayton driver isn't insensitive. It's also small enough to produce a reasonable top end. You could go to something like a FaitalPro driver 3FE22? But you'd need to prop up the bottom end of the frequency response with a woofer (or 2). Possibly you could insert a couple of 4" woofers firing sideways out of each enclosure?
I give up. Will the site manager please send me the directions for attaching photos. I seem to never have any luck doing so.
When you click on the reply button, the screen for typing in your reply pops-up. Scroll down to the next block, "Additional Options" and you'll see a box titled "Attach Files." Click on the "Manage Attachments" button. From there, you'll need to browse to the image(s) and select.
I thought that is what I have been doing. I select the file from my photo file and it does appear in the manage attachments box. There is an "UPLOAD"
tab in the box do I click that and then click "SUBMIT REPLY"? I'll try it now.
tab in the box do I click that and then click "SUBMIT REPLY"? I'll try it now.