Well to change the subject my guys tried out the loudspeakers with and without the Zobel networks. Frequency response measured pretty much the same. Hands down sounded better with the Zobel at the end of 1000 feet of cable. Will try waterfall measurements soon as I expect it is a time hangover issue.
Ed: Can't you just move the amps a bit closer? Lighting rigs seem to be all local control now rather than central hunk o buzz that they used to be...
Waiter, I'll have the same
Ditto JD, says who Mr Curl doesn't have a good sense of humor.
Ed: Can't you just move the amps a bit closer? Lighting rigs seem to be all local control now rather than central hunk o buzz that they used to be...
Some folks are doing that. Electrical codes are much easier to follow for low voltage wiring. The loudspeakers are accessable only by rappelling. Then the idea of ventilation without water ingress is a bit tricky. We do air condition the amplifier rooms. In some locations the weather destroys the loudspeakers in five years. Then there is the issue of getting clean signal to the amplifiers. It actually requires less copper wire to send loudspeaker level signals than the mains power with safety ground. I have also seen the loudspeaker mounts struck by lightning WITHOUT damage.
The amplifiers I use are switching amplifiers with DSP built in. They still have a bit of weight. Failure rate of the ones I prefer have a failure rate of under 1% including break in. The next best run 2-3% and the popular brand name has gone as high as 10%. Loudspeaker failures are 0% except for the one stadium's worth where the woofers were connected to HF terminals and LF terminals to the compression drivers. Warranty claim was mid 6 figures. They also randomly wired front and back circuits on a specialty fill loudspeaker.
(The manufacturer wanted to know why I didn't test all of their loudspeakers before installation. For some reason no other manufacturer has ever had such bad quality control.)
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Now back to the real world: Today I am faced with what RCA male and female that I want to use to evaluate the latest Bybee devices. For the moment I will stick to two choices from the past, that were used in the Vendetta SCP-2 Phono preamp successfully. First the ultra pure copper Tiffany with gold directly applied without a nickel interface, and second, the normal copper Tiffany with the nickel interface. One pair of each, ground return made with VDH Linear Xtal copper leads hard soldered with SN62 to each connector. Later, I might try a new design that I am told could be better sounding. What trouble it is to get something right! '-)
There is no perfect grounding with (soft) soldering. Spot welding, silver hard welding, or high pressure contacts... even crimping is better then tin soldering.
Bybee products are out of physics, and no comment.
Bybee products are out of physics, and no comment.
Now back to the real world: Today I am faced with what RCA male and female that I want to use to evaluate the latest Bybee devices. For the moment I will stick to two choices from the past, that were used in the Vendetta SCP-2 Phono preamp successfully. First the ultra pure copper Tiffany with gold directly applied without a nickel interface, and second, the normal copper Tiffany with the nickel interface. One pair of each, ground return made with VDH Linear Xtal copper leads hard soldered with SN62 to each connector. Later, I might try a new design that I am told could be better sounding. What trouble it is to get something right! '-)
Gee John, now that you demonstrated that you can be very humorous, it's not getting easier for us.
But from the contents of your quoted post, I think I am safe assuming it is a continuation of your humour pose. 🙂
Jan
morinix,
And that Big Mac would cost you $10.00! I have no problem with people who have the money buying only organic whatever or grass feed beef but the cost is not insignificant in difference. I don't particularly worry if my food is all organic, but I won't eat Albacore tuna daily, nor Swordfish or many other polluted fish though I love fish. I don't need a 1/2lb steak either. I try to eat a lot of vegetables, a limited volume of red meat, or other meats, I eat mostly chicken as animal protein and try not to add to many calories to that. Some people such as Brad's friend have to eat those potatoes every day with every meal or rice or some large quantity of some kind of carbs. There isn't anything wrong with potatoes with the exception that many of those potato eaters have them fried mostly they don't want a plain baked potato. Nothing wrong with eggs but I just limit them to once a week, just my choice.
The problem with so much of what we read about foods is it keeps getting changed, eggs are bad, no they're not. Cholesterol from food is bad, no its not. Coffee is good, coffee is bad. Oh no hot coffee is bad, coffee is okay. As Sy says it just seems to be opposite day all the time. When I see a true vegan and they are jaundice yellow looking am I suppose to think they are more healthy than I am, I don't think so. I get on my kids all the time to eat more vegetables, perhaps one day when they are on their own they will remember what I have been saying, you know how kids are , oppositional just to be that way.
But I still hate Lima beans and Brussel sprouts, never going to like them!
The problem with organic products is not so much the premium you have to pay for them, but the fact that pure organic simply cannot feed the world population.
In the mid seventies, my late father, acting under pressure from me, started growing on a small patch of summer house land, his tomatoes (I am a total tomato junkie). The tomaties he produced were smaller than regular, but could be smelled at 10 yards away as no reglar ever could, and was tasty all on its own that eating them with just plain bread would be a good meal. However, its total yielded output was like 1/3 or 1/4 of the regular. Economy wise, the fruit juices he produced (fully Pasteurized in a special pot using simple water vapour from his own well in which water starts at 33 feet down) were like no other juie I ever had from anyone anywhere, but at the true economy prices, it would cost over 3 times the usual industrial. Not many would pay for it at such a premium, even if the taste was heavenly.
I like rhubarb! I need to start growing it again.
Sprouts are only nice blanched then fried. In Lardons if you are a meaty.
Robert: I have no problem believing BP can affect* hearing.
*Dunno why but I seem to have a mild dyslexia and some words I always get wrong, even with this (NSFW) T-shirt Grammar T Shirt
Great T shirt.... Glad to see number 16 -- that one drives me nuts, so many people say it... Is being something of a pedant a function of ageing?🙂
The amplifiers I use are switching amplifiers with DSP built in. They still have a bit of weight. Failure rate of the ones I prefer have a failure rate of under 1% including break in.
That's really interesting -- what make are they, please?
back on power supplies I saw this PS Audio PerfectWave P10 Power Plant AC Regenerator | Stereophile.com and thought that might start some discussion. According to PS-Audio the best sine wave isn't a sine wave...
back on power supplies I saw this PS Audio PerfectWave P10 Power Plant AC Regenerator | Stereophile.com and thought that might start some discussion. According to PS-Audio the best sine wave isn't a sine wave...
Are we suppose to talk about how J. Austin doesn't understand electricity or the banes and boons of the PS Audio unit?
You are not 'supposed' to discuss anything. It just intruiged me how you can get the same effect (flat top squarewave) for free just by turning lots of stuff on. Makes sense as a marketing story in the time domain. Hate to think what the frequency domain looks like..
back on power supplies I saw this PS Audio PerfectWave P10 Power Plant AC Regenerator | Stereophile.com and thought that might start some discussion. According to PS-Audio the best sine wave isn't a sine wave...
Overpriced UPS with no batteries?
That's really interesting -- what make are they, please?
Ashly
Mr. Austin says:
Typical journowoffle from someone who has learnt some words but not learnt what they mean. The main limit on cap recharging is circuit resistance and inductance; a typical mains filter will make a negligible difference.Not everyone agrees that passive power conditioners degrade the sound, but the opinion can be defended on technical grounds: low-pass filters limit how fast current can flow—that's what low-pass filtering means in the time domain—which means that they also limit how fast power-supply capacitors can recharge.
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If a filter removes harmonics, then it removes the effects of harmonics such as flat-topping. Now whether the unit in question does this or not is a separate issue, but in principle a power filter can 'add back what is missing' (which in more technical terms means 'remove what has been added'). [Just noticed that in a footnote he admits that he was talking nonsense.]Another problem with power filters is that they can't add back what's missing—eg, the top few volts shaved from the sinewave that comes in through my wall (fig.1): a consequence of the overwhelming demand from all the other consumers and businesses with which my home shares the power company's transformer (footnote 1). If the peaks of the incoming waveform are missing, the power-supply capacitors in my system may not get sufficient power when they need most to recharge.
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Maybe where he lives, but in most civilised countries the electrical infrastructure is well-maintained. What has actually happened is that changes in technology have not bothered to keep up with good engineering practice.With excess use and neglect, the electrical infrastructure has deteriorated—just like bridges and highways—and has not kept up with changes in technology.
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Only if your fancy high-end gear is poorly engineered, which may well be the case.Do I really need to spend another $5000 to get the most out of my fancy high-end gear?
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Once sufficient time has been given for the cap to recharge, giving it more time makes no difference. Ripple is determined by discharge time, not charge time, so it is only slightly improved by increased charge time because that necessarily reduces discharge time. By the way, didn't he imply that flat-topping was a bad idea (when it is provided free of charge by the mains supply) - but now it is a good idea (when it costs you $5k)?In the P10 and P5 Power Plants, MultiWave is available in six strengths, with each progressive step correlating with increased capacitor-charging time (and thus decreased power-supply ripple);
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Better. Much better. The area under the current waveform (Q = integral of I*dt) remains the same, but the peaks become shorter and wider, which reduces the higher harmonics. Thus the equipment spews less HF garbage back into the mains, and whatever induction current loops exist within the chassis, radiate less HF garbage into unwanted "victim" circuits.... [flat topped sine wave] makes sense as a marketing story in the time domain. Hate to think what the frequency domain looks like..
Victim: a wonderfully apt term used in high speed digital comms signal integrity work. The motherboard of your 1.9 GHz laptop has had LOTS of signal integrity "victim" analysis performed upon it.
Here's the mains waveform at my house (bottom trace). Not quite a sine wave. If you view the image at 100% and squint real hard at the upper trace, you can see that the diode-induced ringing amplitude is bigger than the secondary voltage (!). This is a particularly not-excellent diode.
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