My CLIO pocket has been working in my lab for over two weeks. It is a nice speaker measurement tool. I used the bigger brother CLIO-FW before. Its firewire interface was not stable. Pocket uses USB and does not need an external DC supply. I have not encountered any connection problem. I also like its software supporting Windows and OSX!
The software does not have those advanced features of CLIO-11. But it is sufficient for my driver/enclosure measurement. One drawback is that it can not open MLS, SIN files saved by CLIO-11. On the other hand, I can export measured data to text file (impedance, frequency data) and wav file (time data). These export files can be processed by other tools like REW. I can use REW to calculate TS parameter to compare with CLIO pocket derived parameters. REW can show us how good the model fits the measured data.
I can also import impulse response (wav file) to REW. The impulse response can then be windowed by different window functions whereas Pocket software has just rectangular or half-hann windows. REW also allows more control on waterfall display. Spectrogram can also be generated.
The software does not have those advanced features of CLIO-11. But it is sufficient for my driver/enclosure measurement. One drawback is that it can not open MLS, SIN files saved by CLIO-11. On the other hand, I can export measured data to text file (impedance, frequency data) and wav file (time data). These export files can be processed by other tools like REW. I can use REW to calculate TS parameter to compare with CLIO pocket derived parameters. REW can show us how good the model fits the measured data.
I can also import impulse response (wav file) to REW. The impulse response can then be windowed by different window functions whereas Pocket software has just rectangular or half-hann windows. REW also allows more control on waterfall display. Spectrogram can also be generated.
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Hi,
Is there any user's manual more complete than the Clio Pocket Survival guide ( http://www.audiomatica.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/CLIO Pocket Survival Guide.pdf ) ?
This one is frustrating by its lacks of many details of the operation of the unit. For example :
- I see there is a section showing how to measure T&S parameters but no mention at all of driver VAS (volume of air equal to the driver compliance).
- there is no information of the way to display distortion measurements or to introducte a frequency response compensation.
About cosmetics, it seems very nice but :
- the graph display and chirp time domain display are shown having a white background.Can they be turned to much more comfortable (to my eyes) almost dark just as are the other displays ?
- a CSD colored presentation should be welcome.
Regards.
Is there any user's manual more complete than the Clio Pocket Survival guide ( http://www.audiomatica.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/CLIO Pocket Survival Guide.pdf ) ?
This one is frustrating by its lacks of many details of the operation of the unit. For example :
- I see there is a section showing how to measure T&S parameters but no mention at all of driver VAS (volume of air equal to the driver compliance).
- there is no information of the way to display distortion measurements or to introducte a frequency response compensation.
About cosmetics, it seems very nice but :
- the graph display and chirp time domain display are shown having a white background.Can they be turned to much more comfortable (to my eyes) almost dark just as are the other displays ?
- a CSD colored presentation should be welcome.
Regards.
I suggest you download manual of CLIO-FW to learn more. There are some commons between CLIO-FW and CLIO Pocket.
TS parameters measurement of CLIO Pocket follows common practices: delta mass or delta compliance.
It does not do distortion measurement. Frequency compensation such as mic calibration can be done using Math function "Add file".
TS parameters measurement of CLIO Pocket follows common practices: delta mass or delta compliance.
It does not do distortion measurement. Frequency compensation such as mic calibration can be done using Math function "Add file".
I suggest you download manual of CLIO-FW to learn more. There are some commons between CLIO-FW and CLIO Pocket.
TS parameters measurement of CLIO Pocket follows common practices: delta mass or delta compliance.
It does not do distortion measurement. Frequency compensation such as mic calibration can be done using Math function "Add file".
Thanks for your reply.
Quite a pity Clio Pocket has not distortion measurements facilities.
I am not sure I'll get a system lacking them.
For long, I have been using Woofer Tester Pro which is a nice and very complete system.
However, I had a sad adventure with it :
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/ever...ns-woofertester-smith-larson.html#post4346862
Maybe I will be lucky to find a second hand unit.
Quite a pity Clio Pocket has not distortion measurements facilities.
It does measure distortion.
Despite the unit being on the market since february, the given information is insufficient. A complete user manual for the Clio Pocket available to download on the Automatica web page would be wellcome. There is a negligence in the promotion of the product, it gives a detrimental look of the vendor to the potential customer.
Thanks for your reply.
Quite a pity Clio Pocket has not distortion measurements facilities.
I am not sure I'll get a system lacking them.
For long, I have been using Woofer Tester Pro which is a nice and very complete system.
However, I had a sad adventure with it :
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/ever...ns-woofertester-smith-larson.html#post4346862
Maybe I will be lucky to find a second hand unit.
I was seriously considering to buy WT-Pro. Thanks for your sharing.
For distortion measurement, I use REW or ARTA; and considering to buy a LASER sensor for excursion vs distortion measurement in ARTA.
Really!? Please show us how.
See my upcoming review in AudioXpress. 😀
Review is completed?See my upcoming review in AudioXpress. 😀
I am also quite interested , I think that you mean distortion of the spectrum , THD which were added in the 1.3 update is poorly informative ...
See my upcoming review in AudioXpress. 😀
Do you know what month it will be in, Stuart?
Thanks,
Mike
I'm not quite sure what you mean, but here's an example spectrum.
I wrote about measuring distortion in Clio pocket ... I meant that in Clio pocket distortion can be measured only in the spectrum.
For example, measurement Farina I have not found.
The Farina system is a great time saver, but all of the information on distortion can be gotten from the spectra taken at different frequencies. It just takes a bit more work.
Do you know what month it will be in, Stuart?
Thanks,
Mike
Clio review is available in October Issue, can now be downloaded.. 😀😀
Joe did a really nice job on that. My upcoming article adds some things and compares the use of the Clio Pocket to using a sound card plus software plus mike.
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