Interesting way of getting feedback from different sets of ears 😉
but, funny, I voted "B" but even after learning that "B" is distorted I still prefer it
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but, funny, I voted "B" but even after learning that "B" is distorted I still prefer it
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sorry that is complete and utter rubbish saying you can only deduce a preference from music you like.
That's not what I said. I said...
I can listen with system A and I prefer 04a, and I can listen with system B and I prefer 04b. There are other systems used by others such as C, D, E, .., Z. The question is why do you need this data?
And there are more to it than that... (such as, choosing between 2 bad things is difficult and can be meaningless)
Hi Jay, I voted for 4a because I thought that was the undistorted one, but not necessarily the better sounding one. Sorry for the confusion.
Wow, cool... so you really prefer H2. Same with R100.
I just tried to listen again thru my low distortion speaker (once for 4a, once for 4b). I can hear that 4b is unnatural, but I prefer 4b also. But the question is why we have to choose between bad options? 😕 Why the undistorted one should be so disturbing, that is the big question here.
I don't understand...
No. You were simply asked to express a preference. If you hated both, just pick the one you hated least. If they sounded identical, either don't express a preference or pick one at random.Jay said:
That may be true, but is irrelevant. If you only have one system then use it. If you have two then vote twice. Pretend the question was "which do you prefer, using your system?".
You were not asked "which is closest to the original sound?". You were not forced to vote at all.
Interesting test and method.
A few years back someone posted a piece of Synth software that would allow you to add harmonics to a signal file. Pretty much whatever orders and amplitude you want to add to the signal. I still have it somewhere. Fun to listen to the results.
A few years back someone posted a piece of Synth software that would allow you to add harmonics to a signal file. Pretty much whatever orders and amplitude you want to add to the signal. I still have it somewhere. Fun to listen to the results.
Whatever, if it follows polynomial formula
y = An*X^n + Bn-1*X^n-1 + Cn-2*X^n-2 + ...... + const
But it is almost impossible to model crossover distortion this way.
y = An*X^n + Bn-1*X^n-1 + Cn-2*X^n-2 + ...... + const
But it is almost impossible to model crossover distortion this way.
To understand harmonic distortion one needs to have musical training or study in the subject of harmony whether formal or not. Or what is referred to as ear training.
It's the higher order of harmonics, greater than 3rd H, which are really annoying/displeasing.
Out of all who voted or commented which have some form of musical training/study in one form or another?
Just curious.
Pavel would you do one with 3rd H.
It's the higher order of harmonics, greater than 3rd H, which are really annoying/displeasing.
Out of all who voted or commented which have some form of musical training/study in one form or another?
Just curious.
Pavel would you do one with 3rd H.
Two years of composition and performance in college, played professionally for ten years or so. I'm not sure I agree with your premise, though.
I DIDN'T VOTE. I just expressed my opinion or "agreement" (because you cannot disagree with preference either) with those who voted for 04b (as you can read on this thread) for the reason of 04a being disturbing which I believed was distorted, higher in level, or whatever that made it so disturbing (I didn't assume that there was only simply H2 difference either. I have my own angle).
BTW, my speaker is new (xo done one channel) and is very unique, and that is why I'm and will be interested with any listening test.
Why the speaker is unique? Technically it is the lowest distortion that I have built. Subjectively, it will CRAZILY display what I thought is in the recording. Very surprising when a music sounded normal on my Sennheiser but up side down on this speaker.
(So far I cannot listen to MP3 with this speaker. I threw away several CDs few days ago, including a copy of Mark Knoppfler album, which is surprising knowing his other albums are soo good)
Why the speaker is unique? Technically it is the lowest distortion that I have built. Subjectively, it will CRAZILY display what I thought is in the recording. Very surprising when a music sounded normal on my Sennheiser but up side down on this speaker.
(So far I cannot listen to MP3 with this speaker. I threw away several CDs few days ago, including a copy of Mark Knoppfler album, which is surprising knowing his other albums are soo good)
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Jay, if you're interested in any sort of listening, have you tried something like a Status Quo track, and looked for the sort of things I mention?
Yes, you are. Create a file with a tone (let's say A440), then add in a tone at 880 with 10% of the original tone's amplitude. Do you hear two distinct notes?
Similarly, listen to a square wave (which very much resembles the waveform and spectrum of a clarinet). Can you identify by ear that it contains 3rd and 5th harmonics as separate notes?
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