100W Ultimate Fidelity Amplifier

Hi Alex,

I'm testing but have some issues. Before I tackle all of them, could you please look at the pot wiring and let me know if I am looking at it right? If I am reading the schematic correctly, one outer leg of the pot comes from the front end and the other outer leg goes to ground. Then the sweep goes on to the input of the second half. It appears that on your board the center pin is not the sweep. Am I reading that correctly?

Thanks, Terry

I am also attaching an asc file I created. It runs but not right. Maybe someone could take a look and see if you can find my error(s).

Thanks, Terry
 

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Hi Alex,

I'm testing but have some issues. Before I tackle all of them, could you please look at the pot wiring and let me know if I am looking at it right? If I am reading the schematic correctly, one outer leg of the pot comes from the front end and the other outer leg goes to ground. Then the sweep goes on to the input of the second half. It appears that on your board the center pin is not the sweep. Am I reading that correctly?

Thanks, Terry

I am also attaching an asc file I created. It runs but not right. Maybe someone could take a look and see if you can find my error(s).

Thanks, Terry

The center pin it's connected to the ground ,the rest you know .
In your simulation forget in LT schematic to include two resistors 22 ohms at rail voltage .... see picture attached .
Best regards,Alex
 

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The center pin it's connected to the ground ,the rest you know .
In your simulation forget in LT schematic to include two resistors 22 ohms at rail voltage .... see picture attached .
Best regards,Alex

Hi Alex,

I will change the wiring on the pot to match your layout. Others who want to build this should be aware of this. Maybe if you get some time you might want to change that so the center pin is the sweep. It would save on confusion.

Thanks for looking at the spice file. I did have the 22R resistors. They are all the way to the right near the voltage sources like in the schematic. However, Q11 & D2 were mislabeled, and the bridge was missing at Q17. I have repaired them and it runs better but still not perfect. I am attaching the corrected file. Maybe you or one of the other Ltspice gurus can take a look.

Blessings, Terry
 

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Hi Alex,

I will change the wiring on the pot to match your layout. Others who want to build this should be aware of this. Maybe if you get some time you might want to change that so the center pin is the sweep. It would save on confusion.


Blessings, Terry

It will be hard to do that because the two electrolytic capacitor.
Is not impossible but that would increase the size if the PC boards.
Alex did a great job as always!!!🙂
If you use wires to connect the pot I think the layout is perfect just need some notice or warning about the pot connection.
Greetings
 
I didn't mean to insult the layout. I did mention that folks should be made aware of the layout. The only bad thing about that pin configuration is that the pot has to be wired the right way or the pot can be reverse acting. With the sweeper pin in the center the plug only has to be reversed. You both know layout waaaaay better than me, so if you say it is difficult to change I will take your word for it.

I'm having big issues with my boards right now. That is why I wanted to get the asc working properly so I will have a basis to troubleshoot from. Since I am the first to build this others can't help me. I need a reference so hope to use the spice file. I can't even seem to get that right and I think it now mimics the original schematic. Alex added a few caps that aren't on the schematic but those shouldn't be causing any issues. I tested all the transistors before I installed them and have triple checked that they are correct. They test good with a diode test now that they are installed as well so I will keep digging. I am hopeful I can get it working as it looks like a cool concept.

Blessings, Terry
 
Wow, this has been journey. Through building the asc file I gave each part a number. Then started transferring the part numbers to the silk. If I am correct Q15 and Q19 are inverted. Would someone please give it a look-see?

Thanks, Terry
 

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Sorry about all this. I am just trying to get the circuit working. After scouring the boards and measuring every component I decided to try building a spice file to give me a basis to work from. I made some mistakes in the file at first that caused me some problems. Now I have the file working but the circuit doesn't seem to work. I don't want to make any more changes to the boards until the circuit is at least proved in ltspice. Home etched boards don't take too many changes without damaged traces.

Thanks, Terry