Stop eating carbs...
We who have easy to gain weight should eat everything low carb. The carbs makes your lipid values look good because all fat has been sucked into yer fat cells because the carbs activated yer insuline production. The ones eating both massive amounts of carbs and fat have obviously been fooled someway by the industry. So - don't eat carbs but use fat as an energy source and excessive fat comes out the natural way 😉 I was too fat a few years back - almost 100kg - 175cm tall. Stopped eating carbs and lost 17kgs doing nothing but no carbs... Went back eating them and gained 5kg in a short while - now I'm forced to obay the sportsindustries call for new equipment ;(. Better to go back to no carbs - every time...
Regards
We who have easy to gain weight should eat everything low carb. The carbs makes your lipid values look good because all fat has been sucked into yer fat cells because the carbs activated yer insuline production. The ones eating both massive amounts of carbs and fat have obviously been fooled someway by the industry. So - don't eat carbs but use fat as an energy source and excessive fat comes out the natural way 😉 I was too fat a few years back - almost 100kg - 175cm tall. Stopped eating carbs and lost 17kgs doing nothing but no carbs... Went back eating them and gained 5kg in a short while - now I'm forced to obay the sportsindustries call for new equipment ;(. Better to go back to no carbs - every time...
Regards
Post 918
George,
Your post 918 was a classic. Rather than simply saying that diet and exercise were both important, you added your personal experience and a description of research done at your gym to give factual background to your assertions. No wonder you lasted so long at Motorola!
George,
Your post 918 was a classic. Rather than simply saying that diet and exercise were both important, you added your personal experience and a description of research done at your gym to give factual background to your assertions. No wonder you lasted so long at Motorola!
freax,
The past is gone, what we have is today and tomorrow. Let the past go and look ahead.
16 years ago I was riding a bicycle for exercise.
The right exercise does help lose weight and reform your body, but it does more than that, It helps improve your mind and spirit, and you have to find the exercise that is right for you.
What is right for me may not right for George, or you, or.. etc.
You have to find what is right for you, be it working out at the gym, riding bicycle, swimming, or a walk around the neighbourhood.
July2nd, 1996 while I was riding, the driver of a car didn't stop for a stop sign, cut the corner and ran shallow in my lane. The impact broke my right leg in 9 places between the knee and ankle on impact with the bumper. When I came off the bicycle I hit the hood with both hands and rotated horizontal, smashing my right hip and below into the wind shield. I was deflected up and over the top of the car, and came down in the middle of the land, hitting the asphalt hard enough to cause me to black out. I was doing 23 M/H and the car was probably doing 30+M/H on impact. That is like slamming into a brick wall at 53M/H relative speed.
I had five operations over a period of three years on my right leg. At the end the doctor told me I was 100% recovered........ with one leg 5/8" shorter than the other.
I have degenerative disk disease of the cervical and lumbar vertebrae.
My current doctor will prescribe pain killers to me if I ask, but I prefer to suffer as much as I can tolerate before giving in.
Each of us has to decide what works for us.
For me it is back to riding the bicycle, walking, and modifying my diet. I don't fear carbs, and just finished baking Lebkuchen last night. Good with coffee.
Don't give up or give in to depression. Seek the help that is available and decide for yourself what works.
I have a cartoon at work with a dragon picking his teeth with a lance while he rests against a tree with armour around him. The caption is "Sometimes the dragon wins".
Just because the Dragon wins sometimes, does not mean we give in and stop fighting him.
We each have our own dragons to fight.
Don't let the dragon win.
Steven
Thanks.
You, or anybody, needs to figure out what works for you, and what works today WILL change down the road.
In my 20's and 30's I was really into sailing my Hobie Cat up and down Ft. Lauderdale beach, playing Frisbee and volleyball. I was a skinny kid of about 140 pounds. Picture in post #283.
In my 40's I rode my bicycle all over South Florida, still skinny, maybe 145 pounds. In my late 40's a mountain bike crash, and a collision with a car, kinda killed my bike riding adventures.
At 47 Motorola put in the Wellness Center, and made it free to employees. I had never been to a gym before, and wasn't particularly interested in this one either. I was still at or below "normal" weight for a 6 foot tall guy, about 165 pounds.
A bunch of the guys I worked and bicycled with started going together and convinced me to go with them. There were about 7 people initially, and a few more came along later. The youngest guy was 21, and the oldest, other than me, was mid 30's.
One of the gym staff members had a masters degree in human physiology and knew his stuff, so I worked with him, asked questions, and together we figured out what worked best for me. He was the guy running the program that gathered data for a week on each "subject" while he was working on his PHD.
It turns out that I liked throwing heavy weight around, and I responded to it better than anyone else my age, so that's what I do. It took me say, 30 years to figure this out. Does this mean that it's right for you, or anyone else, No. but you will never know until you try.
Now, I prefer to go to the gym by myself, when nobody else is there...It's just me and a lump of iron....like the dragon, sometimes I win, usually it wins.....but I will come back to play the game again. I will have my own gym in the basement of our new house, right next to Tubelab, the Lab, and Tubelab, the Studio.
My L2-L3 disc, and L3-L4 disc are bulging.....That limits me in some respects, and restricts what I can do. I can not do any exercise that puts a load on my lower back like squats.
My right shoulder is screwed up from the two bike crashes. I can't look over my left shoulder or turn my head past 90 degrees in that direction. I can't raise my right arm vertical.
We all have our limitations, and they WILL be more as we get older.
I had a pretty screwed up childhood, and a messed up first marriage, battled depression, drugs, alcohol and ADHD, but I can't change or do over the past. I currently am dealing with declining hearing and dizziness, but I just do the best I can. There is no sense in worrying over it, so I just look forward and try not to screw that up.
Agreed completely 100% But for people who are overweight and have prior knee or joint issues which they aren't even aware of, suggesting that any exercise is a good idea is going to turn out very bad for them.
My body is pretty disabled so all I can do is lift weights, I wish that I could get on the recumbent exercise bike but if I do that my knee will dislocate and then "click" whenever I walk up stairs for at least a few weeks afterwoods.
For modern diets, most people think that small amounts of sugar is okay and even good for you. But I am here today to tell you that any forms of sugar is bad, EXCEPT for natural sugar from fruit like Oranges/Rockmelon/Bananas/Olives/other natural foods.
I've researched the whole notion of preprocessed sugar and I think its an entire industry hellbent on destroying all of us through diabetes. No other industry thinks that putting rocket fuel into a camry fuel tank will mean it will perform better, yet the food industry is interested in sales, and the ones who do care about your health have the hide to charge 4x more than usual.
So I only buy Rice (& rice meals) from the regular shopping store, everything else I buy from the fruit shop, I can buy anything that I want to from the fruit store as long as it isn't prepackaged.
I was addicted to the sugar bus for 15 years, nobody told me that it was addictive as ****, the people were all interested in selling their product not at telling me that it was bad for me. They assumed that a sugar addict was capable of quitting anytime they wanted to. Wrong. There are studies stating that its more addictive than Heroin and I can tell you now that it is, exactly, just that addictive.
Right now all I'm concerned about is looking at the back of the packet of every kind of food that I open and eat and if it says that it has more than 5 grams of sugar then I won't eat it, I flat out refuse to.
Take a look at 5 grams of sugar one day, this amount is the amount that they put into kids cereal! Not the Sugary cereal but the dull-bland stuff!
The thing is, dull and bland is exactly how nature makes things, so why are we putting sugar into everything? Because it sells more stuff, simple as that.
If I can keep this up then I will be able to lose this weight, and I will keep up the weightlifting and continue to walk for as long as my knee will allow me to, this is the first phase of getting over my strong addiction to Sugar and I'm glad that I'm keeping it up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z5X0i92OZQ
This is the video that I stumbled upon and discovered. Now I'm completely off sugar of all kinds, infact I eat so little sugar that the other day I had a low blood sugar level and had to eat something to raise it!
Before when I was addicted, I would eat something with very little amounts of sugar and then wonder why I got severe cravings for more sugar just 6 hours later, I thought that it was depression but I'm not depressed anymore! Thats the thing! I was blaming my sugar addiction on depression but I'm not depressed!? So it pointed directly towards having an addiction to sugar. Even the doctors missed this one, COMPLETELY, I would go so far as to say that they done it deliberately just so they could keep giving me anti-depressants. I scream negligence from the hilltops.
The worst part of all of this, is that I've discovered all too late, my brain HAS been damaged by Sugar. But I'm hoping that my short term memory will improve in the future and my level of concentration will increase too.
Now the reason why I say exercise is not the way to lose weight:
A few years ago a person told me to exercise, and it was a fatal mistake to tell me that, because I assumed my knee would hold up to anything, it didn't and now I've got a permanent injury for the rest of my life, or at least until I lose this weight (I'm still hopeful that my knee will recover and I will be able to walk normal distances without it beginning to seize up.) I was doing 30mins in 2 sessions each day at 300-550 cal per session
My knee literally gets warm to the touch after about 2km of walking. So simply telling /everyone/ that exercise is a good idea is NOT a good idea.
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The Secrets of Sugar:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mzf4KSG6oQ
My current diet:
Breakfast:
One serving of Atlantic Salmon (cheap stuff) + (sometimes) Soy Sauce
Lunch:
A small lunch-can sized can of Tuna/Various Flavours + On White Bread (4 slices/2 Sandwiches), Margarine.
Afternoon Snack:
1-2 oranges, carrots.
Dinner:
A small adult sized rice + black bean/beef or Chicken meal.
Or
A can of food + 4 slices of white bread + margarine. (When I was addicted to sugar I would have at least 2 cans)
Late night snack:
Carrots
Water intake:
0.5-2 Litres per day. (Depending upon weather)
That is the entire sum of my daily diet, even that is too much but it is where I am at now and I'm losing weight.
Before I kicked the sugar habit:
At least 50-100 grams of sugar per day ontop of all of that food that I eat above. (From all sources, even milk!)
It will sneak its way into everything that you eat, so you must be vigilent! its used heavily in this country.
A list of the least known sources of sugar:
White Bread
Plain Yogurt
Canned Pickles
Mayonnaise
Plain Cereals
Pizzas
Canned Tuna
Prepackaged Meals
BBQ/Tomato Sauces
Cheezes.
You name it, its got high levels of it!
See... The thing is, nature has just the right levels of sugar that we eat, at the right times per year, so we don't get addicted to it and blow our minds on high dopamine levels and screw up the whole dopamine system.
But modern manufacturing has made it possible to skew what nature does and force sugar down our throats in products which don't normally have such high levels of sugar. So we then get addicted to the stuff. Gain weight and the cycle completes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mzf4KSG6oQ
My current diet:
Breakfast:
One serving of Atlantic Salmon (cheap stuff) + (sometimes) Soy Sauce
Lunch:
A small lunch-can sized can of Tuna/Various Flavours + On White Bread (4 slices/2 Sandwiches), Margarine.
Afternoon Snack:
1-2 oranges, carrots.
Dinner:
A small adult sized rice + black bean/beef or Chicken meal.
Or
A can of food + 4 slices of white bread + margarine. (When I was addicted to sugar I would have at least 2 cans)
Late night snack:
Carrots
Water intake:
0.5-2 Litres per day. (Depending upon weather)
That is the entire sum of my daily diet, even that is too much but it is where I am at now and I'm losing weight.
Before I kicked the sugar habit:
At least 50-100 grams of sugar per day ontop of all of that food that I eat above. (From all sources, even milk!)
It will sneak its way into everything that you eat, so you must be vigilent! its used heavily in this country.
A list of the least known sources of sugar:
White Bread
Plain Yogurt
Canned Pickles
Mayonnaise
Plain Cereals
Pizzas
Canned Tuna
Prepackaged Meals
BBQ/Tomato Sauces
Cheezes.
You name it, its got high levels of it!
See... The thing is, nature has just the right levels of sugar that we eat, at the right times per year, so we don't get addicted to it and blow our minds on high dopamine levels and screw up the whole dopamine system.
But modern manufacturing has made it possible to skew what nature does and force sugar down our throats in products which don't normally have such high levels of sugar. So we then get addicted to the stuff. Gain weight and the cycle completes.
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I think the most important thing is to look at the solvency of the plan you are planning to depend on. The state you are in may have to adjust(raise) revenue some to pay their retirees, but that is unlikely to be the biggest assault on your pocketbook. Insolvency in your plan, on the other hand, would be dramatic, indeed.
I think the most important thing is to look at the solvency of the plan you are planning to depend on. The state you are in may have to adjust(raise) revenue some to pay their retirees, but that is unlikely to be the biggest assault on your pocketbook. Insolvency in your plan, on the other hand, would be dramatic, indeed.
Go artisanal for as much as possible and actually know your farmer/provider face to face, yes it costs a lot more money but it is one choice.
I prefer to let yeast pre-process the sugar in my diet.
Breakfast - Oatmeal
Lunch - Home made soup
Supper - whatever I feel like, but usually either salmon or chicken, vegetables and home made sourdough bread or brown rice. Occasionally I'll have a baked potato or sweet potato.
Junk food snacks are my weak spot. Tortilla chips and salsa with hab sauce for flavor.
I finally learned to make good (southern) biscuits last night and had a bacon egg and cheese biscuit for breakfast today.
Breakfast - Oatmeal
Lunch - Home made soup
Supper - whatever I feel like, but usually either salmon or chicken, vegetables and home made sourdough bread or brown rice. Occasionally I'll have a baked potato or sweet potato.
Junk food snacks are my weak spot. Tortilla chips and salsa with hab sauce for flavor.
I finally learned to make good (southern) biscuits last night and had a bacon egg and cheese biscuit for breakfast today.
I've got Okinawan sweet potato growing in the back yard and some of the siberian tomatoes are just now turning red/ripe, I hope I get them before the grubs do! 🙂 (There are mesh nets you can get to protect your crops, I use those).
I also like oatmeal but its usually only eaten when I can give a toss about getting up and making it, Quaker Oats is awesome.
I also like oatmeal but its usually only eaten when I can give a toss about getting up and making it, Quaker Oats is awesome.
I've tried many other varieties, but keep coming back to Quaker -- folks rave about the steel cut Irish oats but they take a half day to cook.
Just a touch of brown sugar and Lipitor with them oats keeps the ticker and poop-shooter going just fine.
Yep, Quaker oats are a godsend, you add milk and oats to the bowl, put it in the microwave for 1 minute = DONE!
If I done that I would be back on the white dragon again in about 30 minutes. Being addicted to sugar means that my brain is reared and ready and waiting for the slightest amount of sugar, no matter the amount, to trigger a full blown dopamine storm again (and then get addicted again).
No sugar diet means just that, NO SUGAR, the ONLY sugar that you're allowed to have is what comes naturally in your food and you never supplement it, you always get used to having the natural flavour of foods.
I'll give you guys an idea of what its like living with a sugar and junk food addict in the house.
I was driving my mum around to the nearest letterbox (That should give you a warning sign right there) and to the bank. Normally she would drive herself but her car isn't insured.
Freax: "Where to now?"
So anyway we get done with that and she says:
M: "Do you want anything from Burger King?"
Freax: "no"
M: "Well can you then take me to Burger King?"
Freax: "okay but why do you need to go there for anyway?"
M: "I just wanted to to get some lunch, but its okay if you don't want to take me there."
Freax: "No its okay, I'll take you there, I just don't want to get anything from there."
So we drive to BK and she asks again:
M: "Are you sure you don't want anything from there?" (While we're driving there.)
Freax: "Yes I'm sure"
So we arrive there:
M: "They've got so and so on today, are you sure you don't want anything there?"
Freax: "Yes I'm sure"
M: "Ok"
So I pull up to the box:
Freax: "So what do you want?"
Box: "Hi what can I get for you?"
Freax: "We're just having a look at the moment"
Mum: "Uhm, I think I'll have a chicken and a whopper for your dad"
Mum: "Oh and some burger rings"
Mum: "You don't want anything do you?"
Freax: "No."
Box: "Okay that comes to so and so"
Transaction ended...
She asked me FOUR TIMES if I wanted something (severe short term memory loss, due to **** diet) and emotionally blackmailed me once.
I'm thinking that I may have to refuse to drive her to the fast food place again. She can drive herself if she wants it so bad.
So I'm up in the shed again, to get away from that ghastly stench of deep fryer fat and salt and butter and sugar and god knows what else is in it.
Now back to reading my book "The Spark Gap" by Julie Bertagna.
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I have never fought against fatness. People fight against this, against that, is there ever a rest? Sometimes (nah, most of the time) you can clearly see it's a lost battle yet they keep on fighting. But fighting against what? Against your own body? No, no.
You see.... this was no accident, don't look for external factors: if you are a huge meatball you were meant to be that way from the start. Don't you like it? I can understand. Tough luck. I'm also tired of people telling me to eat more, you look too thin they say, that can't be healthy. Oh my God they will never understand, those thickos won't shut the **** up either: it's not what I eat or don't, I was meant to be thin from the start, I can't do a thing about it - I burnt it all.
You see.... this was no accident, don't look for external factors: if you are a huge meatball you were meant to be that way from the start. Don't you like it? I can understand. Tough luck. I'm also tired of people telling me to eat more, you look too thin they say, that can't be healthy. Oh my God they will never understand, those thickos won't shut the **** up either: it's not what I eat or don't, I was meant to be thin from the start, I can't do a thing about it - I burnt it all.
