A NOS 192/24 DAC with the PCM1794 (and WaveIO USB input)

Current Control Diode versus JFET

For the current control diode, my PCB work is done allready-DDDAC

Internally, a current control diode is a JFET with the gate and source tied together. It should sound the same as an adjustable single JFET circuit. The current control diode seems difficult to implement with precisely 400ua current. It comes in 100ua, 300ua, and 500ua values varying as much as plus or minus 40%. Good luck finding singles or combinations that get close to 400ua. A lot of testing throw-aways at over $2usd each.
 
In my dac..i have not connected the rca to earth....but from minus on the powersupply i connect to star earth,,,both powersupply have connection to star earth..

do not connect anything to ground on dac output..(just pos and neg to cinemag trafo)

in this way i solved my hum problem to my tube pre

best Bjarne
 
In my dac..i have not connected the rca to earth....but from minus on the powersupply i connect to star earth,,,both powersupply have connection to star earth..

do not connect anything to ground on dac output..(just pos and neg to cinemag trafo)

in this way i solved my hum problem to my tube pre

best Bjarne

You may be onto something here, I know what star earthing is. But how would that apply to the dddac ? I don't suppose you have a picture do you ?
 
Internally, a current control diode is a JFET with the gate and source tied together. It should sound the same as an adjustable single JFET circuit. The current control diode seems difficult to implement with precisely 400ua current. It comes in 100ua, 300ua, and 500ua values varying as much as plus or minus 40%. Good luck finding singles or combinations that get close to 400ua. A lot of testing throw-aways at over $2usd each.
I've got a couple each of 100ua and 300ua coming this week
I'll let you know how they measure
 
Sovereign--

it is not so hard to do

normally i will make one connection near the input rca,,(in the cabinet)

connect one wire from minus on the 12v dac supply

same from the 5v dac supply (the supply to usb bord)

remember to connect the cinemag correct

if this not remove the hum ---try to connect a wire from rca input ground,,to the star point (one from left and one from right)

just one wire from the different point

one thing more...be carefully not to play loud when you try the connection....some time it hum very bad

i am not so good to paste picture in this forum...hope you understand how to do it
 
Hi Chanh,
Just "checking" out of interest. Did you have some connections below he PCB as well? I see the 12VDC goes to the old "out" from the 3,3 Volt. Does you connect that somewhere below the board to the Input of the 8volt Tent? Also what will you install at the I2S inputs? I only see one resistor right now?
also If you remove the MKTs from the Tent, that seems to be ok, as now the "reference" for the shunt will be closer to the chip! But in that case for the 3,3Volt you still need the MKT close to the chip, which now isn't?
Hi Doede,

Please see photos of a more complete DAC board. I have resisters at I2S input under PCB. Please note analog side of DAC will be wiring direct to PS while digital will under going a voltage drop resister to approx 8V output into mainboard and 3.3V shunt regs. Idea was adopted from Supersurfer! :)

Please kindly advise if any abnormally spotted! ;)

Many thanks!
Chanh

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Hey Chanh,

Prolly advise a bit of teflon or a dab of hot glue on the green resistor that runs around the can of the cap, they can be live when energized as the sleeve is an insulant. Just to make sure they don't touch.

I haven't seen anything else but I haven't a board to play with!

Thanks,

Drew.
 
Chanh, Starting to look very good & no doubt will sound amazing too.

One comment I have is that, caps are best used going from large ->..-> small, not small -> large -> small. But it's probably not that big a deal.

... and once there is a ccs option you might want to turn the 100uf Silmic outwards to creat some space at the 6k spot..
 
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One comment I have is that, caps are best used going from large ->..-> small, not small -> large -> small. But it's probably not that big a deal.
... and once there is a ccs option you might want to turn the 100uf Silmic outwards to creat some space at the 6k spot..
Thanks Stijn!
The current layout added 220uf Elna based on your larger cap recommendation! :) I could not see an alternative real estate for it, hence current position seems ideal.
 
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Thanks Stijn!
The current layout added 220uf Elna based on your larger cap recommendation! :) I could not see an alternative real estate for it, hence current position seems ideal.
The place seems good for the connections, but for that middle 220uf silmic cap, you could flip it around so that it hangs off the board like the 8v regs do instead of covering the 6k current reference resistor
 
Not really! :D
What is wrong with 220uf being there? :confused:

As I wrote:
"One comment I have is that, caps are best used going from large ->..-> small, not small -> large -> small. But it's probably not that big a deal."

I put the 220uf at the C1-C4 & C7-C10, and that's where I would suggest you put it ( I never suggested anything else), and put something smaller in the C5/C11 position..(but not smaller then 47uf..)
 
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:D that went quick.... used digikey selector guide in their iPad app. 2N4339 will do, J113 and BF244A. all need a resistor between source and GND, but it will run just about at the right voltage.

the proof will be in the eating of course.....

With the reserve of potentially too high a Vgs(off) - which is in the detriment of the CCS performance - I like all three options you've found - first two, long-gate JFETs, the third an RF duty JFET.
 
Some e101 and e301 diodes arrived today.
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I was looking at the datasheet and I wonder if the reason they quote such a wide variation of current is in order to cover a full range of voltages and temperatures. I'd also imagine that the surface mount versions are more susceptible to getting hot than the wire mounted ones which can get a bit of air around them
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I hope that with a reasonably stable voltage and normal temperatures there won't be that much variation.

I'll have a play and get them measured shortly...