Yes, the sound could easily be degraded in the more expensive one, because of the way the power supplies function in the cheapies, polluting the mains supply. Usually the last thing done in pricier gear is to make them resistant to interference effects, meaning that their sound varies depending upon everything - hence the reason for lots of snake oil products, 
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The 'lesser' system will run at an average quality level, the 'better' setup could be dragged down to something comparable in overall quality, close enough to be endorsed as equivalent by some listening ...
The real point is, that this is what must be sorted out, in order to get anywhere. Arguing whether there could be such happening is irrevelant, it has to be experimentally shown that it is not happening ...
.The 'lesser' system will run at an average quality level, the 'better' setup could be dragged down to something comparable in overall quality, close enough to be endorsed as equivalent by some listening ...
The real point is, that this is what must be sorted out, in order to get anywhere. Arguing whether there could be such happening is irrevelant, it has to be experimentally shown that it is not happening ...
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Yes, this is why anybody who buys expensive gear, very expensive gear never, ever organises special wiring for the components; separate spurs for each unit, puts exotic filtering in line with the mains - by definition, good equipment is completely impervious to its surroundings ...
Sorry, I was being sarcastic in my comment - most equipment will be quite sensitive to mains quality, and the greater the potential SQ of a system usually the greater is the audible impact of poor power coming in. I recall testing by Martin Colloms of top of the line, monster power amps, which were very, very fussy about what was plugged into their power circuit.
Yes, the sound could easily be degraded in the more expensive one, because of the way the power supplies function in the cheapies, polluting the mains supply. Usually the last thing done in pricier gear is to make them resistant to interference effects, meaning that their sound varies depending upon everything - hence the reason for lots of snake oil products,
The 'lesser' system will run at an average quality level, the 'better' setup could be dragged down to something comparable in overall quality, close enough to be endorsed as equivalent by some listening ...
The real point is, that this is what must be sorted out, in order to get anywhere. Arguing whether there could be such happening is irrevelant, it has to be experimentally shown that it is not happening ...
Sorry but we are getting into strange territory, the above pure speculation on your part...
But more important, you'll support every charlatan scam product or belief on a few hearsays , yet will try to destroy any attempt a proper hearing test, WHY!
Though I suspect like a lot of true believers in ears only, you develop deafness when you cant see the equipment or know what is being tested.
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The snake oil page:
It starts of with...
Welcome to VH Audio
Products by:
And then a list that will provide many humorous minutes reading for the sane, whilst the true believers will drool at this expose of scientific breakthrough that only the far out Audiophile can enjoy and hear the benefit of.
I tried a DBT for political rhetoric once...prompted by a chapter out of one of Alan Dean-fosters Spellsinger novels. We got 3 speeches by opposing parties and had them all read out by the same person (neutralising any obvious pointers to which party the speech was from). The results were that no one could put the correct speech to the correct party, take away the pretty badges and sighted clues and like a lot of audio, political rhetoric sounds the same.
The snake oil page:
It starts of with...
Welcome to VH Audio
Products by:
And then a list that will provide many humorous minutes reading for the sane, whilst the true believers will drool at this expose of scientific breakthrough that only the far out Audiophile can enjoy and hear the benefit of.
I tried a DBT for political rhetoric once...prompted by a chapter out of one of Alan Dean-fosters Spellsinger novels. We got 3 speeches by opposing parties and had them all read out by the same person (neutralising any obvious pointers to which party the speech was from). The results were that no one could put the correct speech to the correct party, take away the pretty badges and sighted clues and like a lot of audio, political rhetoric sounds the same.
How easily tricked our brain is....
Optical Illusions funny, scary and amazing optical illusion magic to fool your eyes.
People are so quick to marvel at optical illusions, but audio illusions don't get the same response.
Optical Illusions funny, scary and amazing optical illusion magic to fool your eyes.
People are so quick to marvel at optical illusions, but audio illusions don't get the same response.
Someone suggested that fish oil may be a profit maker being cheaper than snake oil!
Try this for your further edification:
ART TR 30: multipurpose oil for HiFi
The JApanese army fed this stuff to some of their troops during WW11….it had many beneficial effects + the fact that their hair fell out!
Try this for your further edification:
ART TR 30: multipurpose oil for HiFi
The JApanese army fed this stuff to some of their troops during WW11….it had many beneficial effects + the fact that their hair fell out!
Rather surprising you don't believe in rigour in testing, marce, or perhaps it's sufficient for an Authority Figure to decree what's necessary or not,
. I tend to imagine most serious research is based on minimising the degrees of freedom in the experiment, so that one understands what one is really testing, .Of course, if one has already made one's own mind up, then any experiment that supports one's POV is worthy, no matter how sloppily it may have be done
.If we have a hearing test, then, yes, let it be a Proper one; ears are a valuable part of the toolkit - until some person or other gets off their backside, and develops measurement tests that correlate better with what people can hear, I will continue to rely heavily on listening to tell me what's going on ...
I agree, it's absolutely grotesque that we rely on pilots using their eyes when landing a plane - should have been replaced with machinery a long time ago,
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Their chips are nothing compared to mine ...I use Chocolate chips.
I tried using Chips Ahoy but it felt like I was left out to sea.
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