Slewmaster - CFA vs. VFA "Rumble"

Here's hoping we see some of OS's refinements to the CFA-X from the 'other' thread here soon (the CFA-XH)... I think I'd jump on that right away! A giant VSSA 😎.

OK , I will begin.

(below 1) is the "H" version of the CFA-X.


This IPS "burns up the road".

5-12ppm (1k/20k) with 400v/us slew ( in a more "tame" mode).
It will run with NO compensation ! Amazing.

Easy to make the IPS , just graft my already- made Hawksford layout
to the "CFA-X". 🙂

Some say I should add the servo/floating CCS plus cascodes to the
IP pair. Nope ... "KISS" (keep it stupid simple), is the better way.
Easier just to use something like D667a/B647a to "harden" the IP
pair. (many other choices for 10 Cob - 100Vceo - 1A devices).
OS
 

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Ostripper,
Hoping to recieve my Slew boards this week and then I've to decide which IPS board I take but you've designed so many.Don't know which one to take anymore.

I'm kind of leaning toward the original "CFA-X" -or this update to it ,for my
own OPS's.

I love the hawksford sound (so does luxman - even their preamps
have this for op). I must satisfy my UV/red led fetish ... this
amp must look "tubish" 😀 .

(below is the reason) !! Mama ... I forgot the caps !! 😱

OS
 

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I would not try this in the real world 😀 ... but it is a good
example of this circuits "slop" factor (VERY wide margin for error).

Also , don't try shunt comp. with the "gnome" (dadod has one oscillating
on the CFA thread). On this PCB , I will allow for either miller or shunt ...
just to be careful.

PS - the slew on my last attachment was 1.2KV+/us (estimate) with 6mhz UG. that's as
far as these models can go. (amp limited by Cob)

OS
 
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So OS,
I assume you wouldn't really want that ringing on the square wave even at that insane slew rate, will there be some compensation scheme to tame that circuit?

Your suggestion creates a interesting possibility.

(below 1) is realistically fast. while it does slightly ring , it is stable ...
I saw some of the more aggressive tests that thimios did.

With trimmable capacitors like Thimios used , you could just "dial in"
your desired slew.The predicted range would be 60V/uS to over 600V/us
(with the trimmer).

(below 2) is 68p comp. (slow - like a VFA😀) , with a 100pf mica
trimmer cap (below 3) .... interesting comparisons could be achieved.
 

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I must say those are the first adjustable caps I have ever seen. For those of us who don't currently have access to a nice O'scope will the bom and specific part numbers and values give us a workable solution without having to worry about oscillations?
 
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I must say those are the first adjustable caps I have ever seen. For those of us who don't currently have access to a nice O'scope will the bom and specific part numbers and values give us a workable solution without having to worry about oscillations?

Those with scopes could trim to perfection and enlighten the rest. 🙂

A "safe" value is 100k/27-33pF - no ringing at all ...300V slew.

I have started the PCB. it will also appeal to "tweakers" ... multiple
compensation options.
PS = "adjustable caps" .... open up a hi-fi tuner or receiver, the rf "front end" will have them.
OS
 

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OK , I will begin.

(below 1) is the "H" version of the CFA-X.


This IPS "burns up the road".

5-12ppm (1k/20k) with 400v/us slew ( in a more "tame" mode).
It will run with NO compensation ! Amazing.

Easy to make the IPS , just graft my already- made Hawksford layout
to the "CFA-X". 🙂

Some say I should add the servo/floating CCS plus cascodes to the
IP pair. Nope ... "KISS" (keep it stupid simple), is the better way.
Easier just to use something like D667a/B647a to "harden" the IP
pair. (many other choices for 10 Cob - 100Vceo - 1A devices).
OS
D5, D6 needs decoupling, lower noise too
R2 lower to 10-22 k
 
Feedback resistor sets the gm, so indeed if the feedback resistor is of the appropriate value, you can in theory skip the comp cap. However, I think in these cases you will be relting on the intrinsic capacitance of the TIS/TAS and any capacitance load from the TIS/TAS output to ground (can be 10s of pF in a practical amp)